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Old 23 Feb 2004, 10:23 pm
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Default Loose driver's seat...!!!???

I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.

Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.

When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as the
seats moves back.

It's more bothersome than anything else.

(It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or all
the way back.)

I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat is
installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for this
car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
inherant design flaw.

Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?

What should I do?

Thanks!



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Old 23 Feb 2004, 10:52 pm
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Me wrote:
>
> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>
> When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
> moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as the
> seats moves back.
>
> It's more bothersome than anything else.
>
> (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
> middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or all
> the way back.)
>
> I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat is
> installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for this
> car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
> inherant design flaw.
>
> Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks!

fro, experience you have to have it documented at the dealership... keep
complaining about it as long as it in warranty... when out of warranty
there will probably be a fix for it and you gonna have to pay.... thats
when you complain to the manufactuer or zone manager of the manufacturer
and when they see you complained about it since it was new they should
rebate you for the cost of the fix.. thats what ford did for me back in
1973 on a grand torino that had what the dealer called a design flaw...
it turner out to be some bushings in the rear drive axles that they
could not find to be at fault...
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 06:53 am
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"Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
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> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>


I have an 2003 EX 4 cyl/doors with power seats. There is no play at all no
matter where I position the seat.

On the other hand, I had a Volvo 850 which had a similar rocking for the
entire 10 years I had the car. Kept hearing "They all do that".

Keep bugging the dealer, might want to say its a safety issue as it
disconcerts you when the seat moves. That approach did not work for me with
the Volvo, unfortunately.

Dave


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Old 24 Feb 2004, 09:39 am
Cosmin N.
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My 10 year old Accord's driver seat moves the same way yours does, but
it's barely noticeable. However, in my case I know why it's happening:
the seat lost a ball bearing from the rails it moves on. I found it on
the floor a while ago, right after I noticed the wobble. I'm just too
lazy to take out the seat completely to see where it fell from... Maybe
this summer?

Cosmin

Me wrote:
> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>
> When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
> moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as the
> seats moves back.
>
> It's more bothersome than anything else.
>
> (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
> middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or all
> the way back.)
>
> I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat is
> installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for this
> car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
> inherant design flaw.
>
> Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>

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Old 24 Feb 2004, 09:52 am
-- SilverSting--
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I second that my Coupe V6/EX does the same thing.... I hardly notice it
now... but it does do it.... and on top of that I can't seem to adjust the
seat to a good position. My back seems to hurt after driving for a while...

"Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
news:slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy. com...
> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>
> When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
> moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as

the
> seats moves back.
>
> It's more bothersome than anything else.
>
> (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
> middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or

all
> the way back.)
>
> I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat

is
> installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for

this
> car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
> inherant design flaw.
>
> Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>



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Old 24 Feb 2004, 10:09 am
John Horner
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"Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
news:slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy. com...
> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>
> When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
> moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as

the
> seats moves back.



My '03 V6 Accord does this also and it drives me crazy. The dealer keeps
saying that Honda is "working on a solution".

Argh!

John


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Old 24 Feb 2004, 10:10 am
John Horner
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"harrison" <harrisonWOWfamily1@rcn.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
> news:slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy. com...
> > I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
> >
> > Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's

loose.
> >

>
> I have an 2003 EX 4 cyl/doors with power seats. There is no play at all

no
> matter where I position the seat.



Was yours built in Japan or Ohio? So far all of the cars which have
reported this problem (including mine) seem to be Ohio cars. I suspect that
a different supplier/factory makes the seat system for the US built cars
than for the Japan built ones.

John


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Old 24 Feb 2004, 09:14 pm
Keith J
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Default Re: Loose driver's seat...!!!???

I concur with all of the above. Annoy the P1ss out of them until they fix
it. After a few more times of non-fixing, start writing the Honda
corporate. Also see about writing the NHTSA (National Traffic Safety...or
whatever). Stress concern that the seat may break free in a crash. Gov't
agencies live for that stuff PLUS that's what they are there for.... for us!

Keith




"-- SilverSting--" <reply@goup.thx> wrote in message
news:c1frvm$ptm$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> I second that my Coupe V6/EX does the same thing.... I hardly notice it
> now... but it does do it.... and on top of that I can't seem to adjust the
> seat to a good position. My back seems to hurt after driving for a

while...
>
> "Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
> news:slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy. com...
> > I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
> >
> > Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's

loose.
> >
> > When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the

seat
> > moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as

> the
> > seats moves back.
> >
> > It's more bothersome than anything else.
> >
> > (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
> > middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or

> all
> > the way back.)
> >
> > I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat

> is
> > installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for

> this
> > car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
> > inherant design flaw.
> >
> > Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?
> >
> > What should I do?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >

>
>




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Old 24 Feb 2004, 10:49 pm
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In article <slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> ,
Me@My.Computer.com says...
> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>
> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>
> When I stop at a light there is a small but noticible 'thump' as the seat
> moves forward. When I start driving again, there is a little "thump" as the
> seats moves back.
>
> It's more bothersome than anything else.
>
> (It appears to be a little more noticable when the seat is adjusted to a
> middle position....and less noticible when the seat is all the way up or all
> the way back.)
>
> I have been to the dealer (this morning) and the tech said that the seat is
> installed and attached correctly...so he thinks it may be 'normal' for this
> car. He can't see anything that could fix it. And it might just be
> inherant design flaw.
>
> Has anyone heard of this? Is there any Honda documentation of this?
>
> What should I do?
>
> Thanks!


Is this the power seat you're referring to?
I have been experiencing this with the MANUAL seat in my '03 Accord DX.
The dealer replaced the seat back mechanism, with no effect.
He wants to change the seat pan mechanism next, it's on order.
I checked it in a new '04 on the lot; it did the same thing.
Then tried an '04 with power seat (sorry, didn't note trim level or
place of manufacture), and it did NOT wobble...

--Gene
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Old 25 Feb 2004, 08:49 am
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:53:25 -0600, "harrison"
<harrisonWOWfamily1@rcn.com> wrote:

>
>"Me" <Me@My.Computer.com> wrote in message
>news:slA_b.17395$VH2.15690@newssvr31.news.prodigy .com...
>> I have a 2003 Honda Accord. 6cyl 4 doors.
>>
>> Ther drivers seat seems to have alittle 'play' in it....i.e...It's loose.
>>

>
>I have an 2003 EX 4 cyl/doors with power seats. There is no play at all no
>matter where I position the seat.
>
>On the other hand, I had a Volvo 850 which had a similar rocking for the
>entire 10 years I had the car. Kept hearing "They all do that".
>
>Keep bugging the dealer, might want to say its a safety issue as it
>disconcerts you when the seat moves. That approach did not work for me with
>the Volvo, unfortunately.
>
>Dave
>


I too have the power seat and have noticed no play. The right hand
seat is manual. No passenger has mentioned play, but then again, that
seat is not occupied as frequently as the driver seat.

I agree that it can be struggle to get dealers / manufacturers to deal
with this kind of stuff. The odd logic seems to be that they will fix
it if it is a problem only you have, but won't fix it if many of the
cars have the problem.

I would be more receptive to a dealer saying, hey, we could replace
the seat but it is not likely to totally fix the problem since it
seems like most of the cars do this (ie, there is a design flaw rather
than something defective in your car). Then it is an issue for Honda
to address; the dealer can't do much about it other than make sure
Honda understands that they have a lot of people complaining about the
same thing.
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