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Old 23 Feb 2004, 12:31 pm
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The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
about it.?

Bob

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Old 23 Feb 2004, 01:02 pm
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"bob" <bob@me.com> wrote in message
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> The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
> about it.?
>
> Bob
>

I thought so too until I got inside one.

I'm 6' 1" and was very uncomfortable in the front seat, very little leg
room.

Rear doors are a joke, need to open the front doors for access.





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Old 23 Feb 2004, 03:00 pm
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Total payload capacity is very small. bob

MD wrote:
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> "bob" <bob@me.com> wrote in message
> news:RFr_b.162374$cM1.31229937@twister.nyc.rr.com. ..
> > The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
> > about it.?
> >
> > Bob
> >

> I thought so too until I got inside one.
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> I'm 6' 1" and was very uncomfortable in the front seat, very little leg
> room.
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> Rear doors are a joke, need to open the front doors for access.

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Old 24 Feb 2004, 11:13 am
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In article <RFr_b.162374$cM1.31229937@twister.nyc.rr.com>, bob
<bob@me.com> wrote:

> The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
> about it.?
>
> Bob


Bob,
Don't buy it. For many reasons, The Pilot and CR-V are much better
vehicles. The Element was poorly designed and was made as cheaply as
possible to keep the price down. It was made by Honda to compete with
Toyota's Scion xb which is also poorly designed. The Element is a very
high profile vehicle and shares the problem that many high profile
vehicles share.
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Old 24 Feb 2004, 11:15 am
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"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <RFr_b.162374$cM1.31229937@twister.nyc.rr.com>, bob
> <bob@me.com> wrote:
>
> > The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
> > about it.?
> >
> > Bob

>
> Bob,
> Don't buy it. For many reasons, The Pilot and CR-V are much better
> vehicles. The Element was poorly designed and was made as cheaply as
> possible to keep the price down. It was made by Honda to compete with
> Toyota's Scion xb which is also poorly designed. The Element is a very
> high profile vehicle and shares the problem that many high profile
> vehicles share.


It's "lower profile" than the Pilot.

Please buy a clue before posting such blather.


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Old 24 Feb 2004, 04:40 pm
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Bob, most people lack intelligence to provide responses one can use. I'm
6'2" 250lbs, I FIT GREAT, PLENTY OF ROOM. First, depending on what your
needs are, the Element is great for hauling stuff around and for pet's. If
you aren't in need of the carrying space (roughly with rear seats up
44"X72") then yes I would go with the CRV. It handles great in snow and
rain, holds the road rock solid and compared to our outback
quieter........... and a great sound system too

The only thing I don't like is........... The lack of storage in the front
seat area there is no usable center-console, tiny glove compartment and that
is my only complaint. If safety is an issue get a Mercedes, if carrying
capacity then I'd recommend a pickup, but for one all around kick-ass
car..... The Element!


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Old 25 Feb 2004, 05:24 am
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In article <RFr_b.162374$cM1.31229937@twister.nyc.rr.com>, bob
<bob@me.com> wrote:

> The Element seems to be a good value for a low cost SUV.Any feedback
> about it.?
>
> Bob


Bob,
Don't buy it. For many reasons, The Pilot and CR-V are much better
vehicles. The Element was poorly designed and was made as cheaply as
possible to keep the price down. It was made by Honda to compete with
Toyota's Scion xb which is also poorly designed. The Element is a very
high profile vehicle and shares the problem that many high profile
vehicles share.

>>>><<<<<

It's very apparent you know nothing about either the Element or the Scion,
The Scion if anything would compete with the Mini-Cooper..........

Ignorance is Bliss



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Old 25 Feb 2004, 03:19 pm
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:40:16 GMT, "MOS 1369" <moo@moo.com> wrote:

>Bob, most people lack intelligence to provide responses one can use.


That's a little harsh I think.

Element elicits such immediate love-it/hate-it responses- no middle
ground or in-between. And most of the comments on this group regarding
the Element are obviously from the latter crowd. People that will
harp on the paper figures like questionable payload capacity- but
don't have any real experience with the vehicle outside of a test
drive or a showroom look.

Bob should get on the boards at hondasuv.com or elementownersclub.com
if he wants some useful opinions on the car.

I've owned mine for over a year now and put just under 20K miles on
it. I've been mostly pleased with the peformance and economy. (25MPG,
325mi per tankful) Part of me still wishes a V-6 was under the hood-
but a V6 in any SUV would have raised the price above 22-25K.

Space is more than ample for most tasks, but I would be hesitant of
making the Element a primary family car. Suicide doors are neat, but
are still a PITA after a year. I've hauled way in excess of the 675lb
limit that most people here harp about. I've had myself and three
good-sized adults in the car on commutes and long trips. I've helped
two people move. (the removable backseats are truly a godsend) Not
once did I ever have a problem with the handling. Not once did the car
feel unstable- loaded or not. I'm 6'1"; 290lbs, and I fit in the front
seat fine. (I did have to recline the seat a bit to view the
instrument cluster clearly)

Element is functionally a pick up truck for people that don't like
pick-up trucks. That's basically why I bought it- it was my first
SUV.... But it's not the car for everyone- let alone the average SUV
shopper.

--
Sat

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 07:50 am
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>Bob, most people lack intelligence to provide responses one can use.

That's a little harsh I think



No not really, America has been besieged by these types of opinioned
unsubstantiated types. When someone asks a rather simple question, they
don't get an honest answer. They get what ever spews from the diapers of
these "folks".I think that "someone" has created an air of superiority for
those gifted with ignorance...... If he can run a country, then dang, I must
be briliant two!

Democracy Dies with Political Lies!


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Old 26 Feb 2004, 08:00 am
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"MOS 1369" <moo@moo.com> wrote in message
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> >Bob, most people lack intelligence to provide responses one can use.

>
> That's a little harsh I think
>
>
>
> No not really, America has been besieged by these types of opinioned
> unsubstantiated types. When someone asks a rather simple question, they
> don't get an honest answer.


I don't think that necessarily implies either a lack of intelligence or
honestly.

Just an absence of fear of critique.


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