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Old 28 Feb 2009, 09:54 am
road apple
 
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Default 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
"pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires. The
noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine speed.
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 01:40 pm
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Default Re: 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

road apple <sheldonrl@gmail.com> wrote in news:280220090654327700%
sheldonrl@gmail.com:

> Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
> cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
> "pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
> standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires. The
> noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine speed.
>



How old are the plug wires?

Do you have aftermarket wires/rotor?


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Old 28 Feb 2009, 02:21 pm
Michael Pardee
 
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Default Re: 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

"road apple" <sheldonrl@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:280220090654327700%sheldonrl@gmail.com...
> Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
> cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
> "pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
> standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires. The
> noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine speed.
>


In nearly every case I've seen, ignition interference on AM frequencies is
the result of a poor ground at the antenna. Repair requires unmounting the
antenna (which is easy if the antenna is in the rear fender, otherwise could
be difficult) and scraping the metal under the metallic parts of the
antenna. Scotchbrite or fine emery cloth are good for that.

The "condensor" (capacitor) in the old Kettering ignition was to allow the
points to open without bleeding off the energy in an arc across the points.
There could be a bypass condensor on the 12V side of the coil, though.

Mike


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Old 28 Feb 2009, 04:31 pm
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Default Re: 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

In article <FL6dnTUkGLwVEzTUnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@sedona.net>, Michael
Pardee <null@null.org> wrote:

> "road apple" <sheldonrl@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:280220090654327700%sheldonrl@gmail.com...
> > Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
> > cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
> > "pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
> > standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires. The
> > noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine speed.
> >

>
> In nearly every case I've seen, ignition interference on AM frequencies is
> the result of a poor ground at the antenna. Repair requires unmounting the
> antenna (which is easy if the antenna is in the rear fender, otherwise could
> be difficult) and scraping the metal under the metallic parts of the
> antenna. Scotchbrite or fine emery cloth are good for that.
>
> The "condensor" (capacitor) in the old Kettering ignition was to allow the
> points to open without bleeding off the energy in an arc across the points.
> There could be a bypass condensor on the 12V side of the coil, though.
>
> Mike
>
> I will try cleaning up the antenna ground.

My honda with 115,000 mi has the original plug wires and rotor.

Thanks Bob
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Old 28 Feb 2009, 04:41 pm
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Default Re: 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

"Michael Pardee" <null@null.org> wrote in
news:FL6dnTUkGLwVEzTUnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@sedona.net:

> "road apple" <sheldonrl@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:280220090654327700%sheldonrl@gmail.com...
>> Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
>> cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
>> "pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
>> standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires.
>> The noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine
>> speed.
>>

>
> In nearly every case I've seen, ignition interference on AM
> frequencies is the result of a poor ground at the antenna. Repair
> requires unmounting the antenna (which is easy if the antenna is in
> the rear fender, otherwise could be difficult) and scraping the metal
> under the metallic parts of the antenna. Scotchbrite or fine emery
> cloth are good for that.
>
> The "condensor" (capacitor) in the old Kettering ignition was to allow
> the points to open without bleeding off the energy in an arc across
> the points. There could be a bypass condensor on the 12V side of the
> coil, though.
>




I do believe this model does in fact have a radio-suppression capacitor in
the feed wire from the ignition switch to the coil. Civic-based cars of the
same era have a cap that looks a lot like a Kettering condenser.


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Old 28 Feb 2009, 07:37 pm
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Default Re: 90 Accord ignition noise in AM radio

In article <Xns9BC0A9E04C8D5tegger@208.90.168.18>, Tegger
<invalid@invalid.inv> wrote:

> "Michael Pardee" <null@null.org> wrote in
> news:FL6dnTUkGLwVEzTUnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@sedona.net:
>
> > "road apple" <sheldonrl@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:280220090654327700%sheldonrl@gmail.com...
> >> Where is the ignition noise suppressor in this Honda. In some other
> >> cars there was a capacitor across the distributor but with the
> >> "pointless" distributors I think that is no longer true. I use the
> >> standard spark plugs and have not changed the high tension wires.
> >> The noise is worse on low AM frequencies and varies with engine
> >> speed.
> >>

> >
> > In nearly every case I've seen, ignition interference on AM
> > frequencies is the result of a poor ground at the antenna. Repair
> > requires unmounting the antenna (which is easy if the antenna is in
> > the rear fender, otherwise could be difficult) and scraping the metal
> > under the metallic parts of the antenna. Scotchbrite or fine emery
> > cloth are good for that.
> >
> > The "condensor" (capacitor) in the old Kettering ignition was to allow
> > the points to open without bleeding off the energy in an arc across
> > the points. There could be a bypass condensor on the 12V side of the
> > coil, though.


I am going to try grounding the antenna first (it's free). II tried
several of the online parts places ie, Majestic and found no capacitor.
I can always try my dealer only 2 miles away.
> >

>
>
>
> I do believe this model does in fact have a radio-suppression capacitor in
> the feed wire from the ignition switch to the coil. Civic-based cars of the
> same era have a cap that looks a lot like a Kettering condenser.

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