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Old 06 Feb 2004, 06:47 pm
Tim Hodge
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On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
give much help on ABS Systems.
TIA for any help.
Tim


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Old 06 Feb 2004, 07:51 pm
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try having the ABS system checked out or go and look through a haynes or
chiltons manual and see if they have ABS info if they do buy it.


"Tim Hodge" <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> give much help on ABS Systems.
> TIA for any help.
> Tim
>
>



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Old 07 Feb 2004, 12:12 am
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Tim Hodge wrote:
>
> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> give much help on ABS Systems.
> TIA for any help.
> Tim


=====================

I found a bunch of stuff in PDF format, I think it was here:

http://icelord.net/honda/repair/

'Curly'

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Old 07 Feb 2004, 06:15 pm
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In article <8IVUb.19744$pt6.4530@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com >, "Tim Hodge"
<timhodge@swbell.net> wrote:

> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> give much help on ABS Systems.
> TIA for any help.
> Tim


Tim,
I suggest that you make a new post or add to the above post and tell us
whether or not the ABS light on the dashboard comes on and then goes
off--along with the various other lights--when you start your car. It's my
understanding--and I could be wrong--that the light is not suppose to come
on if the ABS system is not working correctly. I welcome posts from other
people on this subject.
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Old 07 Feb 2004, 10:03 pm
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My 96 it sometimes comes on, more often in cold weather. I took it to the
dealer last week and the condensor/reservoir is leaking... $1600. ABS ain't
that great!
"Tim Hodge" <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:8IVUb.19744$pt6.4530@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> give much help on ABS Systems.
> TIA for any help.
> Tim
>
>



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Old 07 Feb 2004, 10:59 pm
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On 2/7/04 5:15 PM, in article
tnelson-0702041515080001@pm5-broad-8...dialup.fix.net, "T. Nelson"
<tnelson@nospam.com> wrote:

> In article <8IVUb.19744$pt6.4530@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com >, "Tim Hodge"
> <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
>> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
>> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
>> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
>> give much help on ABS Systems.
>> TIA for any help.
>> Tim

>
> Tim,
> I suggest that you make a new post or add to the above post and tell us
> whether or not the ABS light on the dashboard comes on and then goes
> off--along with the various other lights--when you start your car. It's my
> understanding--and I could be wrong--that the light is not suppose to come
> on if the ABS system is not working correctly. I welcome posts from other
> people on this subject.


The ABS light is a fault light. It comes on when the system detects a fault
and shuts itself down. When the light is on, you still have full normal
braking, but no anti-lock features (i.e. The brakes will lock up). There is
a way to get a trouble code out of the ABS system. If you have the Helms
manual, the procedure is in there. The problem is hardly ever anything
cheap.

It is probably worth your while to pull the code to see what is setting it
off, but you probably will not want to pay for the repair on a '94.

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Old 08 Feb 2004, 12:11 am
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thanks curly, very helpful stuff


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Tim Hodge wrote:
> >
> > On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL

lock
> > up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> > this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> > Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they

didn't
> > give much help on ABS Systems.
> > TIA for any help.
> > Tim

>
> =====================
>
> I found a bunch of stuff in PDF format, I think it was here:
>
> http://icelord.net/honda/repair/
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===========



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Old 08 Feb 2004, 12:11 am
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Thanks for all the help. Curly, those links were very helpful. T. Nelson,
the light comes on at start-up, then goes off, then lights up after a few
seconds indicating a fault. I pulled the trouble codes using some
information provided by Curly's links and got a trouble code "1' . I haven't
followed it through the flow chart yet.
E. Meyer and Dan, Thanks for the input. You're right, it's not likely to be
cheap and if it doesn't prove economically feasible to repair I'll just
drive it with the ABS broke. Hopefully the light will burn out pretty soon
and I can forget about it.
Any other input or idas are still welcome.
Thanks
Tim


"Tim Hodge" <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> give much help on ABS Systems.
> TIA for any help.
> Tim
>
>



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Old 08 Feb 2004, 11:50 am
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Tim Hodge wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the help. Curly, those links were very helpful. T. Nelson,
> the light comes on at start-up, then goes off, then lights up after a few
> seconds indicating a fault. I pulled the trouble codes using some
> information provided by Curly's links and got a trouble code "1' . I haven't
> followed it through the flow chart yet.
> E. Meyer and Dan, Thanks for the input. You're right, it's not likely to be
> cheap and if it doesn't prove economically feasible to repair I'll just
> drive it with the ABS broke. Hopefully the light will burn out pretty soon
> and I can forget about it.
> Any other input or idas are still welcome.
> Thanks
> Tim
>
> "Tim Hodge" <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:8IVUb.19744$pt6.4530@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> > On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL lock
> > up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is causing
> > this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy a
> > Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they didn't
> > give much help on ABS Systems.
> > TIA for any help.
> > Tim
> >
> >

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Tim,

If the light comes on after you start driving, it's often one of the
wheel sensors. They get rusty, eaten by road salt, magnetized, or just
beat to heck over the years. If you can determine (for sure) which
sensor it is, just change it. Even by yourself. It could even just be
corrosion inside the connector, or the tone ring is so rusted that you
need to clean the tone ring with a wire brush and then the adjustment
needs to be moved tighter.

If the light comes on _before_ you even move the vehicle (usually after
hearing the ABS pump running three or four times), then it's the
modulator, or low on brake fluid in the ABS's reservior. now it may be
more expensive.

NEVER believe the dealer's expensive quote before you a few bucks worth
of research.

'Curly'

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Old 08 Feb 2004, 12:26 pm
Tim Hodge
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"NEVER believe the dealer's expensive quote before you a few bucks worth
of research"

Couldn't agree more. I manage to do most of my own work but have never dealt
with ABS or Honda before.
The light comes back on after a few seconds of just sitting still. I'll look
into it deeper after the weather gets better and let you know how it goes.
Thanks again,
Tim

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Tim Hodge wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all the help. Curly, those links were very helpful. T.

Nelson,
> > the light comes on at start-up, then goes off, then lights up after a

few
> > seconds indicating a fault. I pulled the trouble codes using some
> > information provided by Curly's links and got a trouble code "1' . I

haven't
> > followed it through the flow chart yet.
> > E. Meyer and Dan, Thanks for the input. You're right, it's not likely to

be
> > cheap and if it doesn't prove economically feasible to repair I'll just
> > drive it with the ABS broke. Hopefully the light will burn out pretty

soon
> > and I can forget about it.
> > Any other input or idas are still welcome.
> > Thanks
> > Tim
> >
> > "Tim Hodge" <timhodge@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:8IVUb.19744$pt6.4530@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> > > On my 94 accord I get an abs light. The brakes work ok but they WILL

lock
> > > up.Is there a way to pull codes from the computer ts see what is

causing
> > > this or if not what are some of the first things to check. I would buy

a
> > > Hayes or Chilton service manual but I have noticed in the past they

didn't
> > > give much help on ABS Systems.
> > > TIA for any help.
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >

> =============
> Tim,
>
> If the light comes on after you start driving, it's often one of the
> wheel sensors. They get rusty, eaten by road salt, magnetized, or just
> beat to heck over the years. If you can determine (for sure) which
> sensor it is, just change it. Even by yourself. It could even just be
> corrosion inside the connector, or the tone ring is so rusted that you
> need to clean the tone ring with a wire brush and then the adjustment
> needs to be moved tighter.
>
> If the light comes on _before_ you even move the vehicle (usually after
> hearing the ABS pump running three or four times), then it's the
> modulator, or low on brake fluid in the ABS's reservior. now it may be
> more expensive.
>
> NEVER believe the dealer's expensive quote before you a few bucks worth
> of research.
>
> 'Curly'
>
> =============



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