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Old 04 Feb 2004, 04:36 pm
Jehu
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Default Civic Air intake question

Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow filter.

Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold weather?
or neither?
and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you better or
worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little more HP.

- - - - - -
dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)



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Old 05 Feb 2004, 05:38 am
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cold weather is good either way, cold air is denser thus giving more oxygen
for your engine to combust. As for the intake, you'll notice very slight
difference in power, nothing to write home about. And it will give you a
slightly better gas mileage if you drive in the same manner, but it seems
when people add intakes they just love to mash the gas for the sound it
makes, thus killing your gas mileage





"Jehu" <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow filter.
>
> Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold weather?
> or neither?
> and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you better

or
> worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little more

HP.
>
> - - - - - -
> dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)
>
>
>



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Old 05 Feb 2004, 10:23 am
Jim Yanik
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"M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in
news:bvt9vl$et1$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net:

> cold weather is good either way, cold air is denser thus giving more
> oxygen for your engine to combust. As for the intake, you'll notice
> very slight difference in power, nothing to write home about. And it
> will give you a slightly better gas mileage if you drive in the same
> manner, but it seems when people add intakes they just love to mash
> the gas for the sound it makes, thus killing your gas mileage
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jehu" <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> newsteUb.15021$Ja2.96890@nnrp1.uunet.ca...
>> Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow
>> filter.
>>
>> Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold
>> weather? or neither?
>> and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you
>> better

> or
>> worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little
>> more

> HP.
>>
>> - - - - - -
>> dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)
>>
>>
>>

>
>
>


When I put a CAI on my 94 Integra GSR,I got a -very- noticable increase in
power.Mileage has dropped maybe 1 MPG.(Bomz CAI,$60 USD off Ebay)

Can't say anything about cold weather performance,as I'm in Florida.Coldest
it gets around here is about 25 degF. It's about 75 degF outside right
now,got the patio door open. 8-)

How's things up there in the winter wonderland? B-)

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Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
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Old 05 Feb 2004, 11:06 am
Jason Faas
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Default Re: Winter Wonderland-Civic Air intake question

On 2/5/04 10:23, in article Xns9486742EE732Fjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21,
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
> When I put a CAI on my 94 Integra GSR,I got a -very- noticable increase in
> power.Mileage has dropped maybe 1 MPG.(Bomz CAI,$60 USD off Ebay)
>
> Can't say anything about cold weather performance,as I'm in Florida.Coldest
> it gets around here is about 25 degF. It's about 75 degF outside right
> now,got the patio door open. 8-)
>
> How's things up there in the winter wonderland? B-)



Well, since you ask:

Here in Lincoln, Nebraska, we're having our third major snowfall in under
two weeks (major snow here is over 6"). The thing is that they really don't
know how to deal with snow or don't have enough plows or something. So it's
just building up, developing ruts, etc., especially here on the poor side of
town, which for some reason makes the streets around here less of a
priority. And even downtown, they have the brilliant technique of plowing
the snow into the middle of one-way streets, which is fine as long as you
don't want to turn the other direction. How I miss Minneapolis, where even
the out-of-the-way streets get cleared in reasonable time.

I wish my Civic had a little better clearance. I love how it drives on snow
and ice, but with a foot of snow in the alley we've had a little trouble
getting out, but I'm not going to put it in the street and wait for someone
to run into it.

In short, the winter wonderland is great as long as you don't have to go
anywhere...

Jason

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Old 05 Feb 2004, 04:10 pm
T. Nelson
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In article <pteUb.15021$Ja2.96890@nnrp1.uunet.ca>, "Jehu"
<dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:

> Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow filter.
>
> Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold weather?
> or neither?
> and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you better or
> worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little more HP.
>
> - - - - - -
> dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)


According to a book that I have related to Honda vehicles, it says the
following on page 71:
After installing a new air velocity intake system, the author states:
"The result: a 7 to 8 percent in real horsepower was achieved by using a
product that costs less than $200 and takes only minutes to install."
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Old 05 Feb 2004, 06:11 pm
Jehu
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So if that book guy is right... my HP should go from 160hp to 171.2 or
172.8 with a 7 to 8 percent increase. I'm thinking it would prob be more
like 165hp but either way it's good.

Weathers nice up here.... last week it didn't get above -20 celcius ...
makes for a CCCOOOLLLDDD start.
A major snowfall here is more then 12inches in one storm.

- - - - - - -
dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)


"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0502041410190001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <pteUb.15021$Ja2.96890@nnrp1.uunet.ca>, "Jehu"
> <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow

filter.
> >
> > Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold

weather?
> > or neither?
> > and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you

better or
> > worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little more

HP.
> >
> > - - - - - -
> > dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)

>
> According to a book that I have related to Honda vehicles, it says the
> following on page 71:
> After installing a new air velocity intake system, the author states:
> "The result: a 7 to 8 percent in real horsepower was achieved by using a
> product that costs less than $200 and takes only minutes to install."



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Old 05 Feb 2004, 08:26 pm
Jim Yanik
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Default Re: Winter Wonderland-Civic Air intake question

Jason Faas <jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com> wrote in
news:BC47D3EE.1714C%jpfaasNOSPAM@neb.rr.com:

> On 2/5/04 10:23, in article
> Xns9486742EE732Fjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21, "Jim Yanik"
> <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>>
>> When I put a CAI on my 94 Integra GSR,I got a -very- noticable
>> increase in power.Mileage has dropped maybe 1 MPG.(Bomz CAI,$60 USD
>> off Ebay)
>>
>> Can't say anything about cold weather performance,as I'm in
>> Florida.Coldest it gets around here is about 25 degF. It's about 75
>> degF outside right now,got the patio door open. 8-)
>>
>> How's things up there in the winter wonderland? B-)

>
>
> Well, since you ask:
>
> Here in Lincoln, Nebraska, we're having our third major snowfall in
> under two weeks (major snow here is over 6"). The thing is that they
> really don't know how to deal with snow or don't have enough plows or
> something. So it's just building up, developing ruts, etc.,
> especially here on the poor side of town, which for some reason makes
> the streets around here less of a priority. And even downtown, they
> have the brilliant technique of plowing the snow into the middle of
> one-way streets, which is fine as long as you don't want to turn the
> other direction. How I miss Minneapolis, where even the
> out-of-the-way streets get cleared in reasonable time.
>
> I wish my Civic had a little better clearance. I love how it drives
> on snow and ice, but with a foot of snow in the alley we've had a
> little trouble getting out, but I'm not going to put it in the street
> and wait for someone to run into it.
>
> In short, the winter wonderland is great as long as you don't have to
> go anywhere...
>
> Jason
>
>


Well,I used to live in Buffalo and Indianapolis.Had enough snow to last me
forever.
(I drove a Civic CVCC,too,with 12" wheels!)

It snowed the day I left Indy,driving a brand new Prelude.
I don't miss snow at all.

I used to send out postcards to my friends,that had a pic on one half of a
guy shovelling snow out of his driveway,and on the other half,a guy in a
lounge chair at a Florida beach,captioned "you/ME." 8-)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
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Old 05 Feb 2004, 08:29 pm
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"Jehu" <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
news:YYAUb.15407$Ja2.101480@nnrp1.uunet.ca:

> So if that book guy is right... my HP should go from 160hp to 171.2
> or 172.8 with a 7 to 8 percent increase. I'm thinking it would prob
> be more like 165hp but either way it's good.
>
> Weathers nice up here.... last week it didn't get above -20 celcius
> ... makes for a CCCOOOLLLDDD start.
> A major snowfall here is more then 12inches in one storm.
>
> - - - - - - -
> dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)
>
>
> "T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:tnelson-0502041410190001@pm2-broad-151.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
>> In article <pteUb.15021$Ja2.96890@nnrp1.uunet.ca>, "Jehu"
>> <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey i have 2 related questions about Air intake systems/high flow

> filter.
>> >
>> > Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold

> weather?
>> > or neither?
>> > and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you

> better or
>> > worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little
>> > more

> HP.
>> >
>> > - - - - - -
>> > dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)

>>
>> According to a book that I have related to Honda vehicles, it says
>> the following on page 71:
>> After installing a new air velocity intake system, the author states:
>> "The result: a 7 to 8 percent in real horsepower was achieved by
>> using a product that costs less than $200 and takes only minutes to
>> install."

>
>
>


One negative side effect of the cold air intakes is that the intake opening
is usually rather LOW in the car,and could act as a water intake in deep
puddles,very,very BAD for your motor,as water does NOT compress.
There are "bypass" valves,but they decrease the power gains slightly.

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jyanik-at-kua.net
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Old 05 Feb 2004, 08:31 pm
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"Jehu" <dcoxREMOVETHIS@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
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>> According to a book that I have related to Honda vehicles, it says
>> the following on page 71:
>> After installing a new air velocity intake system, the author states:
>> "The result: a 7 to 8 percent in real horsepower was achieved by
>> using a product that costs less than $200 and takes only minutes to
>> install."

>
>
>


WRT "minutes to install",I believe you have to remove the old intake system
first,including the resonator and piping that wasn't so accessible in my
Integra GSR.(for a Cold Air intake,not a short ram)
But it still is not hard to do,and very worthwhile.

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Old 21 Feb 2004, 02:57 am
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It should give you a little more power but it won't keep the same milage as
someone else mentioned. You get more air which means you're burning more
gas. So expect a slight gas milage decrease. It's hard to gain any
performance without burning more gas with the current car set-ups.
Electrical engines are a different story and they sure have a long way to
go. Even then you won't get performance without more electricity. There are
a lot of websites out there describing how those systems are set-up and how
they work.

Doesn't take too long to install. Maybe 30min-1hr if you know what you're
doing. Remove old piping, plug-in new set-up and you're done. That's
probably the easiest performance mod that you can do except placing a bunch
of performance stickers all over your car which supposedly boosts your HP
from what I've heard.

--Viktor

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>
> Is a high flow air intake system good or bad for your car in Cold weather?
> or neither?
> and from anyone who has one installed, does an intake kit give you better

or
> worse gas millage?.. considering you have more torque and a little more

HP.
>
> - - - - - -
> dave (2000 Civic SiR Coupe)
>
>
>



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