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Well, did some test drives...

Well I had a chance to drive a few vehicles today.

1. Subaru Impreza TS Wagon (auto)- Nice enough but quite gutless considering
it is supposed to be 165hp.

2. Subaru Impreza WRX (std) - OMFG! This is one VERY fast car! I just can't
see spending an extra $12,000 over the non-turbo TS Wagon. Did I mention the
thing is really fast?

3. Forester Turbo (auto) - seemed a little too tipsy (truck-like) but wow,
lots of go-straight-fast performance with the turbo. Damn thing was $37,000!
Again too much to spend.

4. Acura EL (auto) - I didn't bother test-driving it. I sat inside and found
it a little too small for our primary family vehicle.

5. Honda Element (auto) - don't ask.... Damn nice utility on the inside,
ugly as sin on the outside, terrible driving dynamics (especially with
today's cross winds) I went two blocks and took the thing right back to the
dealer.

Which leaves me with the last test drive...

6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4 cyl
and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold! My wife
actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the motor
wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.

Now to sign up to the APA, Car Cost Canada or similar organization to get
the real cost of the car to start negotiations.


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Just wondering.... why did you not try out a Toyota Camry.... much nicer
ride than the Accord, better pick up, smoother, far quiter and better
looking too!

"LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote in message
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> Well, did some test drives...
>
> Well I had a chance to drive a few vehicles today.
>
> 1. Subaru Impreza TS Wagon (auto)- Nice enough but quite gutless
considering
> it is supposed to be 165hp.
>
> 2. Subaru Impreza WRX (std) - OMFG! This is one VERY fast car! I just
can't
> see spending an extra $12,000 over the non-turbo TS Wagon. Did I mention
the
> thing is really fast?
>
> 3. Forester Turbo (auto) - seemed a little too tipsy (truck-like) but wow,
> lots of go-straight-fast performance with the turbo. Damn thing was
$37,000!
> Again too much to spend.
>
> 4. Acura EL (auto) - I didn't bother test-driving it. I sat inside and
found
> it a little too small for our primary family vehicle.
>
> 5. Honda Element (auto) - don't ask.... Damn nice utility on the inside,
> ugly as sin on the outside, terrible driving dynamics (especially with
> today's cross winds) I went two blocks and took the thing right back to
the
> dealer.
>
> Which leaves me with the last test drive...
>
> 6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4 cyl
> and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold! My
wife
> actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the motor
> wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.
>
> Now to sign up to the APA, Car Cost Canada or similar organization to get
> the real cost of the car to start negotiations.
>
>
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Just an after thought.... I will say that i would take a civic hands down
over a corolla, as the ride is much nicer (sportier) in the civic, and a
prelude over a celica... but when it comes to Accord vs Camry.... Camry is a
much nicer car.... no comparison in my opinion

"Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
news:CphRb.17767$P51.16189@clgrps12...
> Just wondering.... why did you not try out a Toyota Camry.... much nicer
> ride than the Accord, better pick up, smoother, far quiter and better
> looking too!
>
> "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote in message
> news:5XgRb.3700$9Ce1.495@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com...
> > Well, did some test drives...
> >
> > Well I had a chance to drive a few vehicles today.
> >
> > 1. Subaru Impreza TS Wagon (auto)- Nice enough but quite gutless
> considering
> > it is supposed to be 165hp.
> >
> > 2. Subaru Impreza WRX (std) - OMFG! This is one VERY fast car! I just
> can't
> > see spending an extra $12,000 over the non-turbo TS Wagon. Did I mention
> the
> > thing is really fast?
> >
> > 3. Forester Turbo (auto) - seemed a little too tipsy (truck-like) but
wow,
> > lots of go-straight-fast performance with the turbo. Damn thing was
> $37,000!
> > Again too much to spend.
> >
> > 4. Acura EL (auto) - I didn't bother test-driving it. I sat inside and
> found
> > it a little too small for our primary family vehicle.
> >
> > 5. Honda Element (auto) - don't ask.... Damn nice utility on the inside,
> > ugly as sin on the outside, terrible driving dynamics (especially with
> > today's cross winds) I went two blocks and took the thing right back to
> the
> > dealer.
> >
> > Which leaves me with the last test drive...
> >
> > 6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4
cyl
> > and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold! My
> wife
> > actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the
motor
> > wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.
> >
> > Now to sign up to the APA, Car Cost Canada or similar organization to
get
> > the real cost of the car to start negotiations.
> >
> >
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>

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:57:05 GMT, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
wrote:
>6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4 cyl
>and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold! My wife
>actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the motor
>wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.

44kpg? I think it's 34mpg highway.

But you're right, it is smooth, quick, and quiet, zips zero to eighty
(mph) without any fuss at all.

J.

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
> 44kpg? I think it's 34mpg highway.

You're kidding? I have a '01 V6 Accord (auto), and I get (summer months)
between 38 and 42 mpg highway.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

>
> 44kpg? I think it's 34mpg highway.

Nah, he is Canadian. They get bigger gallons up there (20.1% bigger to
be precise) 44 mpg Imperial is about 36 mpg US.

Hey Ron, to be honest I never test drove the Toyota. The Toyota uses
MacPherson Struts and the Honda uses multilink suspension. Also the Toyota
doesn't come with ABS standard on the 4cyl model like the Honda.

As far as the ride and looks... the Toyota is closer to something my mom
would like. I've always driven smaller cars so I kinda like a firm ride.


"Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
news:CphRb.17767$P51.16189@clgrps12...
> Just wondering.... why did you not try out a Toyota Camry.... much nicer
> ride than the Accord, better pick up, smoother, far quiter and better
> looking too!
>
> "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote in message
> news:5XgRb.3700$9Ce1.495@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com...
> > Well, did some test drives...
> >
> > Well I had a chance to drive a few vehicles today.
> >
> > 1. Subaru Impreza TS Wagon (auto)- Nice enough but quite gutless
> considering
> > it is supposed to be 165hp.
> >
> > 2. Subaru Impreza WRX (std) - OMFG! This is one VERY fast car! I just
> can't
> > see spending an extra $12,000 over the non-turbo TS Wagon. Did I mention
> the
> > thing is really fast?
> >
> > 3. Forester Turbo (auto) - seemed a little too tipsy (truck-like) but
wow,
> > lots of go-straight-fast performance with the turbo. Damn thing was
> $37,000!
> > Again too much to spend.
> >
> > 4. Acura EL (auto) - I didn't bother test-driving it. I sat inside and
> found
> > it a little too small for our primary family vehicle.
> >
> > 5. Honda Element (auto) - don't ask.... Damn nice utility on the inside,
> > ugly as sin on the outside, terrible driving dynamics (especially with
> > today's cross winds) I went two blocks and took the thing right back to
> the
> > dealer.
> >
> > Which leaves me with the last test drive...
> >
> > 6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4
cyl
> > and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold! My
> wife
> > actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the
motor
> > wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.
> >
> > Now to sign up to the APA, Car Cost Canada or similar organization to
get
> > the real cost of the car to start negotiations.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.567 / Virus Database: 358 - Release Date: 01/24/2004
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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bingo. 44mpg (imperial) 6.5l/100km = 44mpg


"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > 44kpg? I think it's 34mpg highway.
>
> Nah, he is Canadian. They get bigger gallons up there (20.1% bigger to
> be precise) 44 mpg Imperial is about 36 mpg US.


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The accord definatly has a more "sporty" feel to it than the camry, but
typiclly i thought that accord buyers were looking for luxery, not something
sporty, and i thought the camry was more luxuries.... in any case, both are
awsome cars

"LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote in message
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> Hey Ron, to be honest I never test drove the Toyota. The Toyota uses
> MacPherson Struts and the Honda uses multilink suspension. Also the
Toyota
> doesn't come with ABS standard on the 4cyl model like the Honda.
>
> As far as the ride and looks... the Toyota is closer to something my mom
> would like. I've always driven smaller cars so I kinda like a firm ride.
>
>
> "Ron" <Homer@Simpson.com> wrote in message
> news:CphRb.17767$P51.16189@clgrps12...
> > Just wondering.... why did you not try out a Toyota Camry.... much nicer
> > ride than the Accord, better pick up, smoother, far quiter and better
> > looking too!
> >
> > "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back> wrote in message
> > news:5XgRb.3700$9Ce1.495@news04.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com...
> > > Well, did some test drives...
> > >
> > > Well I had a chance to drive a few vehicles today.
> > >
> > > 1. Subaru Impreza TS Wagon (auto)- Nice enough but quite gutless
> > considering
> > > it is supposed to be 165hp.
> > >
> > > 2. Subaru Impreza WRX (std) - OMFG! This is one VERY fast car! I just
> > can't
> > > see spending an extra $12,000 over the non-turbo TS Wagon. Did I
mention
> > the
> > > thing is really fast?
> > >
> > > 3. Forester Turbo (auto) - seemed a little too tipsy (truck-like) but
> wow,
> > > lots of go-straight-fast performance with the turbo. Damn thing was
> > $37,000!
> > > Again too much to spend.
> > >
> > > 4. Acura EL (auto) - I didn't bother test-driving it. I sat inside and
> > found
> > > it a little too small for our primary family vehicle.
> > >
> > > 5. Honda Element (auto) - don't ask.... Damn nice utility on the
inside,
> > > ugly as sin on the outside, terrible driving dynamics (especially with
> > > today's cross winds) I went two blocks and took the thing right back
to
> > the
> > > dealer.
> > >
> > > Which leaves me with the last test drive...
> > >
> > > 6. Honda Accord (auto) - Wow, what an impressive car to drive. 160hp 4
> cyl
> > > and 5-speed automatic. The car was smooth, quick, quiet... I'm sold!
My
> > wife
> > > actually did 30km/hr above the average speed on highway 400 and the
> motor
> > > wasn't even breathing hard. Rated at 44mpg on the highway too.
> > >
> > > Now to sign up to the APA, Car Cost Canada or similar organization to
> get
> > > the real cost of the car to start negotiations.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:56:36 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:
>> 44kpg? I think it's 34mpg highway.
>
>Nah, he is Canadian. They get bigger gallons up there (20.1% bigger to
>be precise) 44 mpg Imperial is about 36 mpg US.

Sonofagun, bigger gallons! But the same size miles?

So the 36 still sounds high, but maybe different pollution
requirements, or ... different engines up there, or is the Canadian
Accord even the same vehicle as the US or is it the smaller TSX model?

Well, it explains how Brian Smith gets those MPG on his V6.

J.