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I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the brakes.
But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?

Do you know what a bleed valve is and where it is? bob

amsjsj wrote:
>
> I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the brakes.
> But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?

You don't disconnect the brake line; you open the bleed valve while someone
pushes on the brake pedal.

Bearman

"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43cNb.1202$_H5.1057@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
brakes.
> But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?
>
>

You can buy a one man bleeder kit from the auto parts store for a few bucks.
This allows you to push down on the pedal and blocks air from going back
into the caliper or wheel cylinder. Basically it is a tube that fits over
the bleeder valve and it goes into a cup filled with a little fluid. It is
easy.

Or you can just gravity bleed like I do which is basically opening the
bleeder until clear fluid comes out.

DAVE


"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43cNb.1202$_H5.1057@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
brakes.
> But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?
>
>

The conventional way to bleed brakes without a pump is fairly easy if
you have a helper. There is a bleed nipple (capped with a rubber cap) at
each brake caliper. You need a box wrench and a foot or two of plastic
or rubber hose that fits over the nipple. Clear plastic is best, as it
will allow you to see any air bubbles in the fluid coming out. Put the
box wrench on the nipple first, then stick the hose on the nipple and
lead it into an empty container. Loosen the nipple half a turn or so and
have your helper press on the brake pedal. DO NOT PRESS THE PEDAL ALL
THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. Only press it as far down is it goes during normal
braking. The reason for this is that if you push it all the way down,
the piston will travel into an area of the master cylinder where it
usually does not go. This area usually has a buildup of crud that will
ruin the seals on the piston. When your helper tells you he has pressed
down the pedal, close the nipple and tell your helper to release the
brake. Then repeat the cycle until clear, bubble-free brake fluid is
coming out. Check the fluid level in the brake fluid reservoir
frequently and top off with fresh fluid as needed. You absolutely do not
want the reservoir to go empty as this would cause air to be drawn into
the master cylinder.

The normal sequence for bleeding brakes is either right/rear ->
left/front -> left/rear -> right/front or left/rear -> right/front ->
right/rear -> left/front. The service manual will tell you which one is
recommended for your car, but you can use either of the two sequences
without causing any harm.

To simplify things you can put a check valve in the hose you use for
bleeding. That way you can leave the nipple open and do the bleeding
without a helper.

If you want to be sure not to cause damage to the seals in the master
cylinder, a pump is a much better way to go. You can get a manual kind
like http://tinyurl.com/3fdkl for about $30 and it is absolutely worth
it.

Buy enough brake fluid before you start so you don't run out, old brake
fluid can not be reused.



amsjsj wrote:
>
> I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the brakes.
> But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?

im not sure where the bleed valve is? I see two lines from the master
cylinder going down then i havent looked anymore at it. But where is this
bleed valve? Should i just go with the pump kit?
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:43cNb.1202$_H5.1057@lakeread06...
> I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
brakes.
> But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?
>
>

so i whould have to repeat this procedure with each brake. With the pump
whould i still have to go to each brake to bleed the line with the pump?
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:4005A5B1.8CE3CF27@junkmail.com...
> The conventional way to bleed brakes without a pump is fairly easy if
> you have a helper. There is a bleed nipple (capped with a rubber cap) at
> each brake caliper. You need a box wrench and a foot or two of plastic
> or rubber hose that fits over the nipple. Clear plastic is best, as it
> will allow you to see any air bubbles in the fluid coming out. Put the
> box wrench on the nipple first, then stick the hose on the nipple and
> lead it into an empty container. Loosen the nipple half a turn or so and
> have your helper press on the brake pedal. DO NOT PRESS THE PEDAL ALL
> THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. Only press it as far down is it goes during normal
> braking. The reason for this is that if you push it all the way down,
> the piston will travel into an area of the master cylinder where it
> usually does not go. This area usually has a buildup of crud that will
> ruin the seals on the piston. When your helper tells you he has pressed
> down the pedal, close the nipple and tell your helper to release the
> brake. Then repeat the cycle until clear, bubble-free brake fluid is
> coming out. Check the fluid level in the brake fluid reservoir
> frequently and top off with fresh fluid as needed. You absolutely do not
> want the reservoir to go empty as this would cause air to be drawn into
> the master cylinder.
>
> The normal sequence for bleeding brakes is either right/rear ->
> left/front -> left/rear -> right/front or left/rear -> right/front ->
> right/rear -> left/front. The service manual will tell you which one is
> recommended for your car, but you can use either of the two sequences
> without causing any harm.
>
> To simplify things you can put a check valve in the hose you use for
> bleeding. That way you can leave the nipple open and do the bleeding
> without a helper.
>
> If you want to be sure not to cause damage to the seals in the master
> cylinder, a pump is a much better way to go. You can get a manual kind
> like http://tinyurl.com/3fdkl for about $30 and it is absolutely worth
> it.
>
> Buy enough brake fluid before you start so you don't run out, old brake
> fluid can not be reused.
>
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> > brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
brakes.
> > But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?

Seriously I would just take it somewhere that does this and pay the money.
It isn't worth learning on your own car, especially when you could break off
a bleeder valve or something since you haven't been trained to do this
properly. No flame here just pointing out what might be the best route to
do this.

CaptainKrunch


"amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
news:QokNb.1257$_H5.783@lakeread06...
> im not sure where the bleed valve is? I see two lines from the master
> cylinder going down then i havent looked anymore at it. But where is this
> bleed valve? Should i just go with the pump kit?
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:43cNb.1202$_H5.1057@lakeread06...
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> > brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
> brakes.
> > But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?
> >
> >
>
>

Yes, even with a pump you would still have to do it at each wheel.
Another thing is that if you are not completely comfortable with working
on the brake system it may be wise to at least ask a local shop for a
quote on this. It shouldn't be too expensive to have it done.

amsjsj wrote:
>
> so i whould have to repeat this procedure with each brake. With the pump
> whould i still have to go to each brake to bleed the line with the pump?
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4005A5B1.8CE3CF27@junkmail.com...
> > The conventional way to bleed brakes without a pump is fairly easy if
> > you have a helper. There is a bleed nipple (capped with a rubber cap) at
> > each brake caliper. You need a box wrench and a foot or two of plastic
> > or rubber hose that fits over the nipple. Clear plastic is best, as it
> > will allow you to see any air bubbles in the fluid coming out. Put the
> > box wrench on the nipple first, then stick the hose on the nipple and
> > lead it into an empty container. Loosen the nipple half a turn or so and
> > have your helper press on the brake pedal. DO NOT PRESS THE PEDAL ALL
> > THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. Only press it as far down is it goes during normal
> > braking. The reason for this is that if you push it all the way down,
> > the piston will travel into an area of the master cylinder where it
> > usually does not go. This area usually has a buildup of crud that will
> > ruin the seals on the piston. When your helper tells you he has pressed
> > down the pedal, close the nipple and tell your helper to release the
> > brake. Then repeat the cycle until clear, bubble-free brake fluid is
> > coming out. Check the fluid level in the brake fluid reservoir
> > frequently and top off with fresh fluid as needed. You absolutely do not
> > want the reservoir to go empty as this would cause air to be drawn into
> > the master cylinder.
> >
> > The normal sequence for bleeding brakes is either right/rear ->
> > left/front -> left/rear -> right/front or left/rear -> right/front ->
> > right/rear -> left/front. The service manual will tell you which one is
> > recommended for your car, but you can use either of the two sequences
> > without causing any harm.
> >
> > To simplify things you can put a check valve in the hose you use for
> > bleeding. That way you can leave the nipple open and do the bleeding
> > without a helper.
> >
> > If you want to be sure not to cause damage to the seals in the master
> > cylinder, a pump is a much better way to go. You can get a manual kind
> > like http://tinyurl.com/3fdkl for about $30 and it is absolutely worth
> > it.
> >
> > Buy enough brake fluid before you start so you don't run out, old brake
> > fluid can not be reused.
> >
> >
> >
> > amsjsj wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a 96 honda accord lx w/out abs. I was wondering how do i bleed my
> > > brake lines w/out a pump. I know i need two people. One to pump the
> brakes.
> > > But where do i disconnect the line to bleed the brakes?

In article <QokNb.1257$_H5.783@lakeread06>, amsjsj <amsjsj@cox.net>
wrote:

> im not sure where the bleed valve is? I see two lines from the master
> cylinder going down then i havent looked anymore at it. But where is this
> bleed valve? Should i just go with the pump kit?
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@cox.net> wrote in message


the bleed valve is at the break, not the master cilinder