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Old 15 Jan 2004, 02:25 am
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"Tegger®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote in message news:<Xns9470E84D6C7F7teggeratistop@207.14.113.17> ...
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> Yup. When I was there in '85, it rained pretty much every day, usually at
> night. I was also surprised at the amount of rust on the cars there, until
> I realized it had to do with the salt sea air.


Well, you must have been on the windward side of some island. The west
(lee)sides of the islands here are pretty arid/hot. Those who live
further west and away from the ocean actually have nice, older cars.
You'd be surprised at the number of "vintage" cars in really nice
shape (for those that take care of their rides).

Chris
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 06:38 am
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seven@aloha.net (Seven) spake unto the masses in
news:27d3c559.0401142325.4f7ebed0@posting.google.c om:

> "Tegger®" <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote in
> message news:<Xns9470E84D6C7F7teggeratistop@207.14.113.17> ...
>>
>> Yup. When I was there in '85, it rained pretty much every day,
>> usually at night. I was also surprised at the amount of rust on the
>> cars there, until I realized it had to do with the salt sea air.

>
> Well, you must have been on the windward side of some island.



It's been years, so I don't remeber where I saw the rust, Must have been
the windward side. We rented a Jeep and went around Oahu a few times
sightseeing. I had never before seen such Hollywood-style waves until I saw
the windward side of Oahu.


> The west
> (lee)sides of the islands here are pretty arid/hot. Those who live
> further west and away from the ocean actually have nice, older cars.



Yes. We stayed in Honolulu like most tourists. Saw lots of older Japanese
cars especially, including a jacked-up Toyota pickup with the notation
"Hawaii's Own Poi Pounder" in giant letters on the side (that one might
have been on the big island...).

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Old 15 Jan 2004, 02:57 pm
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George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message news:<msob00df7tid4otkd9c3vg3mfsl006ighk@4ax.com>. ..
> Official Honda service manuals are available at www.helminc.com


Thanks!

> >The damn A/C line hose got in the way of me putting in the driver's
> >side fan. I scratched up the fins a bit getting this fan in with the
> >tight clearances between the exhaust manifold, A/C line hose(s) and
> >the radiator. This shouldn't affect the functionality of the radiator,
> >should it?

>
> If you didn't gouge the coolant channels it should be OK. If the fins were
> badly bent I'd have "combed" them back into approximate line. Did you not
> read my tip on protecting the fins during installation with pieces of
> cardboard?<shrug>


Hey, George. Don't be so fast to jump to conclusions! I did use
cardboard to protect the radiator and the fins and had the radiator
protected until I had to remove the cardboard so I could install the
fans. I mean, I *do* have to remove the cardboard at some point point,
right?

> > I also noticed that the A/C line hose is brushed up against
> >the shield on the exhaust manifold. The A/C line hose has a plastic
> >shield around it I am thinking that acts as a shield from the somewhat
> >hot manifold shield. I didn't notice the proximity of the hose to the
> >shield before, so I don't know if this is OK or not.

>
> No - it's not "OK". That "shield" is a sleeve where the hose should be
> clamped in a bracket coming back off the front valance and over the
> radiator. Either you're missing the bracket or missed what its purpose is
> during reassembly.


Well, I'm pretty anal about putting things back together how I found
them, so I guess the bracket was missing in the first place. I guess
I'll have to pull one off of a wreck at the local junkyard.

Thanks,
Chris
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 02:59 pm
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|I had a Haynes manual, which was just OK. I could have done the work
|without it, I think. I'd much rather like an official Honda manual,
|though don't know where to get one.

I downloaded a manual (PDF scan) for my 1990 CRX from a website.
There were other models available, probably included the Civic.
Found the link on one of the CRX tuner sites, so do some Googling.
Rex in Fort Worth
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 05:34 am
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On 15 Jan 2004 11:57:01 -0800, seven@aloha.net (Seven) wrote:

>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote in message news:<msob00df7tid4otkd9c3vg3mfsl006ighk@4ax.com>. ..
>> Official Honda service manuals are available at www.helminc.com

>
>Thanks!
>
>> >The damn A/C line hose got in the way of me putting in the driver's
>> >side fan. I scratched up the fins a bit getting this fan in with the
>> >tight clearances between the exhaust manifold, A/C line hose(s) and
>> >the radiator. This shouldn't affect the functionality of the radiator,
>> >should it?

>>
>> If you didn't gouge the coolant channels it should be OK. If the fins were
>> badly bent I'd have "combed" them back into approximate line. Did you not
>> read my tip on protecting the fins during installation with pieces of
>> cardboard?<shrug>

>
>Hey, George. Don't be so fast to jump to conclusions! I did use
>cardboard to protect the radiator and the fins and had the radiator
>protected until I had to remove the cardboard so I could install the
>fans. I mean, I *do* have to remove the cardboard at some point point,
>right?


Ah - OK, all is forgiven.:-) I don't recall the '90 Civic layout - mine
was sold >5years ago - but in my '92 Integra I was able to remove/install
the radiator with the main fan mounted; the A/C fan - the one on the driver
side - I dismounted from the radiator before removal and left dangling,
still attached to its electrical connections... which I had trouble getting
to while the radiator was still in the car anyway.

Rgds, George Macdonald

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