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Old 07 Dec 2003, 04:17 pm
Trident9440
 
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Default how to disable the radio alarm system when repair my car?

Hi,there
I want to replace the window regulator of my honda accord. I read the user
manual and it says I should disable the alarm system first. The car I bought
is a used one so it does not provide me the init code for the radio system.
Does there anyone know how to disable the alarm system? Can I simplely
disconnect the radio from the battery?

Thanks?
Trident


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Old 08 Dec 2003, 01:26 pm
Tjacobs
 
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Default Re: how to disable the radio alarm system when repair my car?

I am not sure what you are talking about. Some people suggest hooking
a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before
you disconnect the car battery. It is cuppose to give enough juice to
keep the presets in the radio from erasing. It may work with the anti
theft codes also.
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Old 08 Dec 2003, 06:51 pm
Chip Stein
 
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thomas.jacobs@dva.state.wi.us (Tjacobs) wrote in message news:<eaadaf9c.0312081026.752da589@posting.google. com>...
> I am not sure what you are talking about. Some people suggest hooking
> a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before
> you disconnect the car battery. It is cuppose to give enough juice to
> keep the presets in the radio from erasing. It may work with the anti
> theft codes also.


don't unhook anything to replace a window regulator. justa leave the key off.
Chip
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Old 08 Dec 2003, 08:29 pm
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Tjacobs <thomas.jacobs@dva.state.wi.us> wrote:
> I am not sure what you are talking about. Some people suggest hooking
> a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before
> you disconnect the car battery. It is cuppose to give enough juice to
> keep the presets in the radio from erasing. It may work with the anti
> theft codes also.


That might be an interesting exercise. Hooking a 9v dry cell across a
300Amp-capable 12v car battery ought to be a really bad thing.

I've never heard of that trick, but if anything, I would think you would
disconnect the car battery, and connect the 9v battery within X seconds.

I would never connect two dissimilar voltage batteries.

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Old 08 Dec 2003, 10:11 pm
Eric
 
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dold@howXtoXdis.usenet.us.com wrote:
>
> Tjacobs <thomas.jacobs@dva.state.wi.us> wrote:
> > I am not sure what you are talking about. Some people suggest hooking
> > a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before
> > you disconnect the car battery. It is cuppose to give enough juice to
> > keep the presets in the radio from erasing. It may work with the anti
> > theft codes also.

>
> That might be an interesting exercise. Hooking a 9v dry cell across a
> 300Amp-capable 12v car battery ought to be a really bad thing.
>
> I've never heard of that trick, but if anything, I would think you would
> disconnect the car battery, and connect the 9v battery within X seconds.
>
> I would never connect two dissimilar voltage batteries.
>


I believe that you may have misunderstood what the respondent was referring
to. Connecting a 9v transistor battery to save the radio and clock settings
is actually a common practice although in a slightly different manner from
what was described. Most folks use an adapter that plugs into the cigarette
lighter socket, e.g., http://tinyurl.com/yctf. The only issue with this is
that you have to be careful not to turn on any accessories while working on
the car as the small 9v battery will not hold up under the load and the
radio settings will be lost.

Eric
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Old 09 Dec 2003, 03:34 am
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Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote:

>> Tjacobs <thomas.jacobs@dva.state.wi.us> wrote:
>> > a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before


> dold@howXtoXdis.usenet.us.com wrote:
>> That might be an interesting exercise. Hooking a 9v dry cell across a
>> 300Amp-capable 12v car battery ought to be a really bad thing.


> what was described. Most folks use an adapter that plugs into the cigarette
> lighter socket, e.g., http://tinyurl.com/yctf. The only issue with this is


The gadget has some circuitry inside. That I can believe, and I think I
have seen mention of that before. That is a far cry from "across the car
battery terminals", which could be either a disaster, or at least lead to a
very hot battery in very short order.

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Old 10 Dec 2003, 08:29 am
Indian Summer
 
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<dold@
> Eric
> > >> Tjacobs :
> > > dold
> >> > a 9 volt transistor Battery accross the Car Battery terminals before

>
> >> That might be an interesting exercise. Hooking a 9v dry cell across a
> >> 300Amp-capable 12v car battery ought to be a really bad thing.

>
> > what was described. Most folks use an adapter that plugs into the

cigarette
> > lighter socket, e.g., http://tinyurl.com/yctf. The only issue with this

is
>
> The gadget has some circuitry inside. That I can believe, and I think I
> have seen mention of that before. That is a far cry from "across the car
> battery terminals", which could be either a disaster, or at least lead to a
> very hot battery in very short order.


What about a short while removing the alternator?




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Old 10 Dec 2003, 08:45 am
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Indian Summer <Almonds@pistachios.com> wrote:

> What about a short while removing the alternator?



Eh? What's the question?


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Old 11 Dec 2003, 02:08 am
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Indian Summer
<dold
> Indian Summer <Almonds@pistachios.com> wrote:
>
> > What about a short while removing the alternator?

>
> Eh? What's the question?


Ever tried removing an alternator?. In such tight a space, you
will need a plastic wrench to do the work to avoid a short. A short would
send the gadget to zero volts.


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Old 11 Dec 2003, 04:27 pm
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Indian Summer <Almonds@pistachios.com> wrote:

> Ever tried removing an alternator?. In such tight a space, you
> will need a plastic wrench to do the work to avoid a short. A short would
> send the gadget to zero volts.


The high-current battery is already disconnected when you start
removing the alternator. The gadget provides only a few milliamps,
current limited. If you touch your wrench against the exhaust manifold
you might momentarily pull the voltage at that point to zero, but draw
no more than a few milliamps from the gadget. The radio can probably
withstand an outage of several seconds.

The excitement of shorting out an alternator with your wrench isn't from
the volts, it's from the amount of current available. The low current
from the gadget might not even break through the insulating properties
of the rust on the exhaust manifold and the grease on your wrench.
(Is rust a conductor?)

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