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I got a 2001 Civic LX manual. I like in New England. I've got 32k on the
OEM Firestone FR690 tires which I cannot stand anymore. They suck big
time, I don't remember them being so bad at the beginning, but not I
feel unsafe to drive. When it rains I cannot brake properly and I have
to push the gas pedal *realy* gently when the light turn green,
otherwise the front wheels slip and it makes this horible noise...

I don't want to get winter wires. I am too lazy to change tires. I need
al season, with stelar performance in rain and more than decent
persormance in snow.

The Michelis Hydroedge get 8 in winter and 10 for wet traction and tread
wear. I am not impressed with their warranty (85k), I would be happy if
I get a decent 50k out of them. As I said, safety is paramount, price
and longevity thread wear is not an issue.

Any advice is appreciated. The hydroedge are new and couldn't find a lot
of reviews (and I googled by the way!) The reviews at tirerack all
looked good.

Thanks

"chibitul" <ch1b1tul@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:ch1b1tul-EC7B3F.23412809102003@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com ...
> I don't want to get winter wires. I am too lazy to change tires. I need
> al season, with stelar performance in rain and more than decent
> persormance in snow.

Nokian WR.

www.nokiantires.com


Cheers,

Pete

I'd recommend Dunlop SP Sport A2!
Any tire with >40k warranty looks very suspicious for me. You definitely
don't want plastic tires, do you?

/Alex







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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:41:06 GMT, chibitul <ch1b1tul@eudoramail.com>
wrote:

>I got a 2001 Civic LX manual. I like in New England. I've got 32k on the
>OEM Firestone FR690 tires which I cannot stand anymore. They suck big
>time, I don't remember them being so bad at the beginning, but not I
>feel unsafe to drive. When it rains I cannot brake properly and I have
>to push the gas pedal *realy* gently when the light turn green,
>otherwise the front wheels slip and it makes this horible noise...
>
>I don't want to get winter wires. I am too lazy to change tires. I need
>al season, with stelar performance in rain and more than decent
>persormance in snow.
>
>The Michelis Hydroedge get 8 in winter and 10 for wet traction and tread
>wear. I am not impressed with their warranty (85k), I would be happy if
>I get a decent 50k out of them. As I said, safety is paramount, price
>and longevity thread wear is not an issue.
>
>Any advice is appreciated. The hydroedge are new and couldn't find a lot
>of reviews (and I googled by the way!) The reviews at tirerack all
>looked good.
>

I had those Firestones on my Dodge Caravan a number of years ago and
didn't like them much at all. I've had good luck with Michelins,
though some in this group don't seem to like them. They are expensive.

The Hydroedge is a new tire, right? I'm curious about this thread to
as I'll be in the market for tires for my Camry soon. I find it
interesting that they have such a long warranty, but still score so
highly on wet and winter traction. I always assumed that there was a
tradeoff there.

I had terrible tires on my 02 CR-V, and I dump them after 12K miles. I
ordered a set of Hydroedge. After the rainstorms we had in the last few days
it was awesome. Is not very quiet (better than the Bridgestone) but not a
whole lot. I don't care about the noise, but I want a good grip on rain, and
this tires are great. Is it going to last 80K miles? I don't know, I will
let you know in about 4 years, but I am happy with them. Yes, it is
expensive, I spend 540 for all 4 at discount tire but hopefully will last
and a lot safer.


"chibitul" <ch1b1tul@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:ch1b1tul-EC7B3F.23412809102003@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com ...
> I got a 2001 Civic LX manual. I like in New England. I've got 32k on the
> OEM Firestone FR690 tires which I cannot stand anymore. They suck big
> time, I don't remember them being so bad at the beginning, but not I
> feel unsafe to drive. When it rains I cannot brake properly and I have
> to push the gas pedal *realy* gently when the light turn green,
> otherwise the front wheels slip and it makes this horible noise...
>
> I don't want to get winter wires. I am too lazy to change tires. I need
> al season, with stelar performance in rain and more than decent
> persormance in snow.
>
> The Michelis Hydroedge get 8 in winter and 10 for wet traction and tread
> wear. I am not impressed with their warranty (85k), I would be happy if
> I get a decent 50k out of them. As I said, safety is paramount, price
> and longevity thread wear is not an issue.
>
> Any advice is appreciated. The hydroedge are new and couldn't find a lot
> of reviews (and I googled by the way!) The reviews at tirerack all
> looked good.
>
> Thanks

You mean "Michelin"? (sp) Tires can get 85K+ but probably with
lousy wet/snow traction. A friend had a '56 Volvo PV-551 2-door (in trade)
in '62 with pre-Indochina war Michelins, made with "real" rubber. They had
90K original miles and were barely worn. The "story" is that when the
French lost Indochina and their rubber plantations, synthetic rubber (from
petrochemicals) was the $alternative$. Synthetic rubber won't wear as well
as natural rubber but won't "rot" as easily either. For sheer mileage:
natural rubber. For sheer time: synthetic. The obvious is that modern
tires are a compromise between the two desires. I won't even speculate the
"Man In The White Suit" hypotheses.

"chibitul" <ch1b1tul@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:ch1b1tul-EC7B3F.23412809102003@newsclstr01.news.prodigy.com ...
> I got a 2001 Civic LX manual. I like in New England. I've got 32k on the
> OEM Firestone FR690 tires which I cannot stand anymore. They suck big
> time, I don't remember them being so bad at the beginning, but not I
> feel unsafe to drive. When it rains I cannot brake properly and I have
> to push the gas pedal *realy* gently when the light turn green,
> otherwise the front wheels slip and it makes this horible noise...
>
> I don't want to get winter wires. I am too lazy to change tires. I need
> al season, with stelar performance in rain and more than decent
> persormance in snow.
>
> The Michelis Hydroedge get 8 in winter and 10 for wet traction and tread
> wear. I am not impressed with their warranty (85k), I would be happy if
> I get a decent 50k out of them. As I said, safety is paramount, price
> and longevity thread wear is not an issue.
>
> Any advice is appreciated. The hydroedge are new and couldn't find a lot
> of reviews (and I googled by the way!) The reviews at tirerack all
> looked good.
>
> Thanks

"Robert" <rsvn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I had terrible tires on my 02 CR-V, and I dump them after 12K miles.

Yup, I agree the Duelers are crap. I drove on them 2 summers so far (
20000km) and will dump them next spring.
I don't know what I'm gonna get yet. Anyway, right now it is about time to
put back my snow/ice tires.

TOYO Touring Spectrum.

Stick like glue, wear well, good stuff.

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"Alexey Shmelev" <uzito2k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'd recommend Dunlop SP Sport A2!
> Any tire with >40k warranty looks very suspicious for me. You definitely
> don't want plastic tires, do you?

The SP A2 has a 50K mile warranty, so what are you saying? ;-)

Cheers,

Pete

In article <3f86cbaa$1_1@127.0.0.1>,
"Alexey Shmelev" <uzito2k@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'd recommend Dunlop SP Sport A2!
> Any tire with >40k warranty looks very suspicious for me. You definitely
> don't want plastic tires, do you?
>
> /Alex

Hi Alex, as I said in my original post, It was not the warranty, but the
"score" for wet and snow traction that made me consider these tires.
Will keep an eye on this group tonight and tomorrow before I decide what
to buy though. Thanks all for your input, it is needed since I have no
clue about tires...