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Old 28 Sep 2003, 06:18 am
Jerry
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Default Are Elements good for lang trips

We're considering buying one ('03 AWD EX) and did a short test drive. It
seemed pretty good, but we regularly (4x/month) drive 3+ hours across
state. Does anyone have experience with an Element on long trips and could
maybe contrast it to other vehicles (especially AWD)?

Thanks - and if you have other opinions for a potential buyer, we'd love to
hear them too!


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Old 28 Sep 2003, 08:18 pm
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

In article <qszdb.2128$ao2.1540@news02.roc.ny>, "Jerry"
<jlieberm@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> We're considering buying one ('03 AWD EX) and did a short test drive. It
> seemed pretty good, but we regularly (4x/month) drive 3+ hours across
> state. Does anyone have experience with an Element on long trips and could
> maybe contrast it to other vehicles (especially AWD)?
>
> Thanks - and if you have other opinions for a potential buyer, we'd love to
> hear them too!


You should not have any trouble. I don't like it since it does not seem to
be very aerodynamic--in other words--the wind does not flow over it like
it does a Honda Accord or Honda's sport car. I advise you to buy the
smaller SUV that Honda makes--I think that it is called a Passport. It
seems to be more aerodynamic than the Element. Toyota also makes some
great SUVs but I would never by any vehicle unless it was a Honda.
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Old 28 Sep 2003, 08:55 pm
Tony Hwang
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

Hi,
Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu made.
(part of GM)
Tony

Bill B. Johnson wrote:

> In article <qszdb.2128$ao2.1540@news02.roc.ny>, "Jerry"
> <jlieberm@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We're considering buying one ('03 AWD EX) and did a short test drive. It
>>seemed pretty good, but we regularly (4x/month) drive 3+ hours across
>>state. Does anyone have experience with an Element on long trips and could
>>maybe contrast it to other vehicles (especially AWD)?
>>
>>Thanks - and if you have other opinions for a potential buyer, we'd love to
>>hear them too!

>
>
> You should not have any trouble. I don't like it since it does not seem to
> be very aerodynamic--in other words--the wind does not flow over it like
> it does a Honda Accord or Honda's sport car. I advise you to buy the
> smaller SUV that Honda makes--I think that it is called a Passport. It
> seems to be more aerodynamic than the Element. Toyota also makes some
> great SUVs but I would never by any vehicle unless it was a Honda.


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Old 28 Sep 2003, 09:06 pm
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu made.
> (part of GM)


CR-V is Honda's smaller SUV and Pilot is their larger SUV. Element is right
in the middle. For info on long trips from owners, check out Element Owners
Club - www.elementownersclub.com. Good luck!


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Old 29 Sep 2003, 11:52 am
Larry
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

Actually the Element and CR-V are of similar size, just different
floorplans. The Element has 25.9 cu ft of cargo space behind the rear seat
and 77 total cu ft of cargo space, whereas the V has 33 and 72 cu ft of
space respectively. And as mentioned, the Passport is no longer imported
from Isuzu as the Pilot has replaced it in the lineup.


"T Mac" <menospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:6tMdb.458314$cF.146412@rwcrnsc53...
> Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:UhMdb.41023$TM4.36409@pd7tw2no...
> > Hi,
> > Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu made.
> > (part of GM)

>
> CR-V is Honda's smaller SUV and Pilot is their larger SUV. Element is

right
> in the middle. For info on long trips from owners, check out Element

Owners
> Club - www.elementownersclub.com. Good luck!
>
>



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Old 01 Oct 2003, 08:50 am
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

In article <UhMdb.41023$TM4.36409@pd7tw2no>, Tony Hwang
<dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
> Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu made.
> (part of GM)
> Tony


Honda's 'regular-sized' SUV is the Passport. Honda's CR-V is the
smaller SUV. The Odyssey is Honda's mini-van.
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"
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Old 01 Oct 2003, 07:52 pm
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

I believe their regular SUV is the Pilot

"Melba's Jammin'" <barbschaller@earthblink.net> wrote in message
news:barbschaller-AD1A85.08504201102003@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> In article <UhMdb.41023$TM4.36409@pd7tw2no>, Tony Hwang
> <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu made.
> > (part of GM)
> > Tony

>
> Honda's 'regular-sized' SUV is the Passport. Honda's CR-V is the
> smaller SUV. The Odyssey is Honda's mini-van.
> --
> -Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it

out.
> Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
> She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
> She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"



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Old 04 Oct 2003, 08:01 am
Bill Freeman
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

The Pilot is the Honda equivalent of the Acura MDX without the
floss. The Passport (I've driven it) was an Isuzu-made stop-gap until the
Pilot reached these shores. The CR-V has better road manners than the
Element according to Consumer Reports. The Element also needs side-impact
curtain bags "standard", a deficit noted by the IIHS >> http://www.iihs.org/
as it flunked their safety tests.


"Jerry" <jlieberm@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> I believe their regular SUV is the Pilot
>
> "Melba's Jammin'" <barbschaller@earthblink.net> wrote in message
> news:barbschaller-AD1A85.08504201102003@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> > In article <UhMdb.41023$TM4.36409@pd7tw2no>, Tony Hwang
> > <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Passport is smaller than Element? And I thought Passport is Isuzu

made.
> > > (part of GM)
> > > Tony

> >
> > Honda's 'regular-sized' SUV is the Passport. Honda's CR-V is the
> > smaller SUV. The Odyssey is Honda's mini-van.
> > --
> > -Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it

> out.
> > Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
> > She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
> > She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

>
>



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Old 14 Oct 2003, 03:05 pm
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Default Re: Are Elements good for lang trips

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:18:11 -0700, billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com
(Bill B. Johnson) wrote:

>You should not have any trouble. I don't like it since it does not seem to
>be very aerodynamic--in other words--the wind does not flow over it like
>it does a Honda Accord or Honda's sport car. I advise you to buy the
>smaller SUV that Honda makes--I think that it is called a Passport. It
>seems to be more aerodynamic than the Element. Toyota also makes some
>great SUVs but I would never by any vehicle unless it was a Honda.


I think you're probably referring to the CRV which is mechanically
almost identical to the Element
The passport is a re-badged Isuzu Rodeo (truck type chassis).
PUT YOUR CHECKBOOK DOWN AND BACK FAR AWAY FROM THE PASSPORT!!!

I think for alot of long distance driving the Element had shorter
gearing to make up for it's extra weight (those clamshell doors
required some extra reinforcement for strength). You might be happier
with a CRV
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