Honda Car Forum

"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Thus spake "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> :
>
>><rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:928a3efb-5e2d-457b-965f-6e5e7b22fa66@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>> don't want to give the dealership ANY reason to try to weasel in the
>>> event of future warranty work, which they are known for.
>>
>>So how are you going to prove that you have changed the oil?
>>Traditional way was to show a copy of the invoice from the shop...
>>In case of DIY, how do you do it?
>>
>>I change my oil or ATF and properly recycle it bringing used oil
>>to local PepBoys shop but I wonder what troubles I am facing
>>in case I will have contested warranty claim and warrantor
>>wants to see all the proof of maintenance done on this car...
>>Yes, I have purchased maintenance fluids, filters and kept
>>the receipts, but from the legal point of view they proof only
>>the fact I purchased these items. Statement can be made
>>that I have actually never gone about doing these things and
>>oil filter is still sitting on my garrage shelf :-)
>
> Actually, by Federal law, they have to show that you voided the
> warranty by not performing the maintenance. You don't have
> to prove that you did the work.

And they show this by me cannot show invoce/recept for the job.
Custommer cannot show the invoice = > he did not do the maintenance.
In the warranty contract they make you responsible for doing
maintenance and keeping all the invoices - you signed the contract.

>>There is also another thing to think about... The state of the oil
>>is not directly measured with any sensor - it is "calculated"
>>using some routine based on the car usage... The same is
>>probably done for ATF or air filter.
>
> Yes. They say it's based on current and historic usage. I bought my
> 08 Fit on March 27th with 11 miles on it (when I did the test drive, I
> put 9 miles on it). Today the MM is showing 10%, A1 service and
> 5535 miles. Nasty city/highway mix.

How do you supposed to interprete the %%?
Does it mean only 10% is left or 10% is used and 90% left?

"Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:r6gdf4pgg2uq575pubss91fle8iflo8tpm@4ax.com...
>> Thus spake "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> :
>>
>>><rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:928a3efb-5e2d-457b-965f-6e5e7b22fa66@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>>> don't want to give the dealership ANY reason to try to weasel in the
>>>> event of future warranty work, which they are known for.
>>>
>>>So how are you going to prove that you have changed the oil?
>>>Traditional way was to show a copy of the invoice from the shop...
>>>In case of DIY, how do you do it?
>>>
>>>I change my oil or ATF and properly recycle it bringing used oil
>>>to local PepBoys shop but I wonder what troubles I am facing
>>>in case I will have contested warranty claim and warrantor
>>>wants to see all the proof of maintenance done on this car...
>>>Yes, I have purchased maintenance fluids, filters and kept
>>>the receipts, but from the legal point of view they proof only
>>>the fact I purchased these items. Statement can be made
>>>that I have actually never gone about doing these things and
>>>oil filter is still sitting on my garrage shelf :-)
>>
>> Actually, by Federal law, they have to show that you voided the
>> warranty by not performing the maintenance. You don't have
>> to prove that you did the work.
>
> And they show this by me cannot show invoce/recept for the job.
> Custommer cannot show the invoice = > he did not do the maintenance.
> In the warranty contract they make you responsible for doing
> maintenance and keeping all the invoices - you signed the contract.
>
>>>There is also another thing to think about... The state of the oil
>>>is not directly measured with any sensor - it is "calculated"
>>>using some routine based on the car usage... The same is
>>>probably done for ATF or air filter.
>>
>> Yes. They say it's based on current and historic usage. I bought my
>> 08 Fit on March 27th with 11 miles on it (when I did the test drive, I
>> put 9 miles on it). Today the MM is showing 10%, A1 service and
>> 5535 miles. Nasty city/highway mix.
>
> How do you supposed to interprete the %%?
> Does it mean only 10% is left or 10% is used and 90% left?

It starts at 100% and descends.

"Truckdude" <sarah@duh.com> wrote in message
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>> How do you supposed to interprete the %%?
>> Does it mean only 10% is left or 10% is used and 90% left?
>
> It starts at 100% and descends.

tnx.

<rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 15, 2:38 am, "Justbob30" <justbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
at least higher I.Q's.
------------

I fully understand what you are asking, it is a pretty straight
forward question. Does resetting the maintanance reminder at an oil
change interval reset the reminder of those items scheduled further
out then said oil change?

Unfortunately, I don't have the answer!



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> <rev_otis_mcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > On Oct 14, 10:39 pm, "Justbob30" <justbo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Here's an idea, let the maintenance minder do its job, it will
> >> tell you
> >> based on several things which are monitored when service needs to
> >> be
> >> done.
>
> > Uh yes, I know. My question is about resetting after various
> > service
> > is done.
>
> >> Changing your oil at 5,000 miles is wasteful of both your money
> >> and a
> >> natural resource. Depending on your driving conditions you may
> >> need to
> >> change at 5k, maybe 10k but, maybe not, why waste? let go, let
> >> Honda :-).
>
> > I am actually quite an expert on the subject of oil changes, but I
> > digress.
> > I am a former BMW owner and always did my own service, but this
> > Honda MM is new to me. This 5k oil change is for the car's first
> > off-the-assembly-line oil change. The dealership thinks they are
> > going to get to do the service work on the car and already has
> > me scheduled for this initial 5k oil change--which is not a bad
> > idea for any new car with factory oil in a brand new engine.
> > But the popular myth of oil changes every 3k miles being
> > a swell idea....it is overkill, and wasteful. 5-8k mile oil
> > changes
> > are the best window to shoot for for most drivers. I'm not a big
> > fan of going more than about 8500 miles on the same oil, synthetic
> > or conventional.
>
> >> <rev_otis_mcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>news:c6a0bf7d-26f1-4dc5-a57b-4b2b751ac6fb@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > I've just bought an 09 Accord. A couple of little questions
> >> > please...
>
> >> > Never had a honda before. This Memory Minder that tells us when
> >> > things need to be done, etc.... I've read the manual well, but
> >> > one
> >> > thing
> >> > that isn't clear to me. Let's say I do my first oil change at
> >> > 5k
> >> > miles,
> >> > and reset the Minder's oil indicator back to 100%. This of
> >> > course
> >> > should not effect the Minder's tracking of the other things
> >> > that won't
> >> > need to be done till later, right? I know this may seem dumb,
> >> > but they don't cover this at all in the manual.
>
> >> > Let's say, on down the road, say at 20k miles or so, I get the
> >> > little
> >> > symbol that I need to change the air filter. After I change
> >> > that,
> >> > and reset the air filter tracking, I wouldn't want to also
> >> > reset
> >> > the oil change tracking without changing the oil, etc., etc.
> >> > I assume that with one or more symbols lit on the cluster,
> >> > I would be able to toggle to reset each one as I do the
> >> > maintenance.
> >> > Is this the way it works?
>
> >> > Also, I seem to have a minor steering wheel shimmy at around
> >> > 60-65 mph. The car has new Michelins and the car only had
> >> > 6 miles on it when I bought it. I wonder if those little air
> >> > pressure
> >> > sensors could present a wee bit of a problem for wheel
> >> > balancing.
> >> > Also, about these sensors in the tires, when the time comes
> >> > for buying new tires, I assume they will just remove the things
> >> > and put them in the new tires. Correct? Do some people just
> >> > do away with these things after a while. I frankly don't need
> >> > them
> >> > myself as I always keep tabs on things like proper air pressure
> >> > in my tires. We do like the car though, and hope to drive
> >> > it a LONG time. Thanks for any good feedback.- Hide quoted
> >> > text -
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rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
> that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
> Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
> at least higher I.Q's.

I don't see what the big deal is about the maintenance minder. Keep
track of the distance and time since you did the last bit of maintenance
to the vehicle and forget about the *mm*. Just like in the good old
days, depend on written records or your memory and forget the new
fangled gizmos. :^)

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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> rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
>> that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
>> Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
>> at least higher I.Q's.
>
> I don't see what the big deal is about the maintenance minder. Keep track
> of the distance and time since you did the last bit of maintenance to the
> vehicle and forget about the *mm*. Just like in the good old days, depend
> on written records or your memory and forget the new fangled gizmos. :^)


....ah, the true Luddite has spoken;-)

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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> rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes
>> me
>> that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
>> Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
>> at least higher I.Q's.
>
> I don't see what the big deal is about the maintenance minder. Keep
> track of the distance and time since you did the last bit of
> maintenance to the vehicle and forget about the *mm*. Just like in
> the good old days, depend on written records or your memory and
> forget the new fangled gizmos. :^)

That is so.........analog!

Brian Smith wrote:
> rev_otis_mcnatt@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> I care very much about conservation and environment, but it amazes me
>> that no one here has understood my actual question about resetting.
>> Honda owners? I think I'll try some of the forums and hope for
>> at least higher I.Q's.
>
> I don't see what the big deal is about the maintenance minder. Keep
> track of the distance and time since you did the last bit of maintenance
> to the vehicle and forget about the *mm*. Just like in the good old
> days, depend on written records or your memory and forget the new
> fangled gizmos. :^)

do you use a fuel gauge? or do you just fill up every other day and
ignore the new fangled gizmo that tells you how much usage you have left?

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <slfdf496mr0nhe8am8g9irtn81eb2ap8q3@4ax.com>,
> Dillon Pyron <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you should read the manual. It's all called out in nice
>> detail.
>
> But didn't you read? He's a self taught EXPERT on such things. Why, he
> knows more in his little finger than all the Honda engineers put
> together. HE knows better.

yeah, i loved that comment too. an "expert" that would change his
synthetic oil after only 8.5k. apparently this "expert" doesn't use oil
analysis.

jim beam wrote:
>
> do you use a fuel gauge? or do you just fill up every other day and
> ignore the new fangled gizmo that tells you how much usage you have left?

I am quite aware of how far I can travel with my vehicle on a tank of
fuel. I don't need to watch the fuel gauge, little Jimmy. That's a bit
out in left field even for you isn't it?