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10 Oct 2008, 01:13 pm
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Re: Tires?
I can't find an X-ice tire with 225-R50-17 for the snow
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:gclktf$ldg$1@news.datemas.de... > Dillon Pyron wrote: >> >> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and odo. > > There is no diameter change, just the width of the tire. A narrower tire > will cut through the snow better. Where a wider tire will tend to *float* > up onto the snow.     
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10 Oct 2008, 01:55 pm
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Re: Tires?
kevin wrote:
> I can't find an X-ice tire with 225-R50-17 for the snow According to TireRack.com and 1010tires.com, the new X-ice Xi2 is available in that size. But don't limit yourself to just the X-ice. Many winter tires available today are equally good, so shop around.
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10 Oct 2008, 09:05 pm
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Re: Tires?
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> > > Reggie Dunlop wrote: >> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message >> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> >>> >>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>> >>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> kevin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and odo. >>>> >>>> >>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than a >>>> smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would handle >>>> better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less mileage. >>> >>> >>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>> lager area. >>> >>> JT >> >> >> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >> > > > Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. > > JT > eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt.
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10 Oct 2008, 09:44 pm
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Re: Tires?
jim beam wrote: > Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > >> >> >> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >> >>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message >>> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>> >>>> >>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>> kevin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and odo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than a >>>>> smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would handle >>>>> better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less mileage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>>> lager area. >>>> >>>> JT >>> >>> >>> >>> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >>> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >>> >> >> >> Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. >> >> JT >> > > eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more > traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt. > Racing tires have NOTHING to do with the application in this thread. JT
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10 Oct 2008, 10:45 pm
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Re: Tires?
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> > > jim beam wrote: >> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>> >>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message >>>> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>> kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and odo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than >>>>>> a smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would handle >>>>>> better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less mileage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>>>> lager area. >>>>> >>>>> JT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >>>> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >>>> >>> >>> >>> Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. >>> >>> JT >>> >> >> eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more >> traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt. >> > > > Racing tires have NOTHING to do with the application in this thread. > > JT > but you said, and i quote: "A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a lager area." you then went on to say: "Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics." now, please explain how a wider tire has less traction and why race cars have wider tires. thanks.
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11 Oct 2008, 11:56 am
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Re: Tires?
jim beam wrote: > Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > >> >> >> jim beam wrote: >> >>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>> kevin >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and >>>>>>>> odo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than >>>>>>> a smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would >>>>>>> handle better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less >>>>>>> mileage. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>>>>> lager area. >>>>>> >>>>>> JT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >>>>> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. >>>> >>>> JT >>>> >>> >>> eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more >>> traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt. >>> >> >> >> Racing tires have NOTHING to do with the application in this thread. >> >> JT >> > > but you said, and i quote: > > "A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a lager > area." > > you then went on to say: > > "Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics." > > now, please explain how a wider tire has less traction and why race cars > have wider tires. thanks. > If I have to 'plain this simple fact to you, you have no business dispensing advice this or any other group. G'bye, JT
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11 Oct 2008, 12:18 pm
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Re: Tires?
On Oct 10, 7:51*am, "Reggie Dunlop" <slap@shot> wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message > > news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > > > > > > > > Reggie Dunlop wrote: > >> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message > >>news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com. .. > > >>>Thus spake "kevin" <powersho...@gmail.com> : > > >>>>I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. > >>>>I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? > >>>>thanks > >>>>kevin > > >>>Yes. *But why? *The diameter change will affect your speedo and odo. > > >> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than a > >> smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would handle better > >> and have better traction-- though yield a bit less mileage. > > > A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a lager > > area. > > > JT > > Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and low, > racing slicks are wide, etc...- Hide quoted text - > Think winter.
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11 Oct 2008, 12:19 pm
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Re: Tires?
On Oct 10, 10:05*pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: > > > Reggie Dunlop wrote: > >> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Gru...@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message > >>news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > >>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: > > >>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpy...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.co m... > > >>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powersho...@gmail.com> : > > >>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. > >>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? > >>>>>> thanks > >>>>>> kevin > > >>>>> Yes. *But why? *The diameter change will affect your speedo andodo. > > >>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than a > >>>> smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would handle > >>>> better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less mileage. > > >>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a > >>> lager area. > > >>> JT > > >> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and > >> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... > > > Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. > > > JT > > eh? *so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more > traction??? *be VERY careful how you answer this question jt.- Hide quoted text - Because they are not racing in the snow.
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11 Oct 2008, 12:42 pm
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Re: Tires?
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
> > > jim beam wrote: >> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>> >>>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in >>>>>> message >>>>>> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>> kevin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and >>>>>>>>> odo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather >>>>>>>> than a smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would >>>>>>>> handle better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less >>>>>>>> mileage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>>>>>> lager area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >>>>>> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. >>>>> >>>>> JT >>>>> >>>> >>>> eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more >>>> traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Racing tires have NOTHING to do with the application in this thread. >>> >>> JT >>> >> >> but you said, and i quote: >> >> "A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >> lager area." >> >> you then went on to say: >> >> "Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics." >> >> now, please explain how a wider tire has less traction and why race >> cars have wider tires. thanks. >> > > > If I have to 'plain this simple fact to you, you have no business > dispensing advice this or any other group. > > G'bye, > > JT > it's neither plain nor simple. you'd not avoid with such a bullshit answer if you knew what you were talking about.
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12 Oct 2008, 08:32 am
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Re: Tires?
On 10/11/2008 11:56 AM Grumpy AuContraire spake these words of knowledge:
> > jim beam wrote: >> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>> >>>> Grumpy AuContraire wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:Z7xHk.263531$102.210347@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reggie Dunlop wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:m0ise4567sfmp0jap5hb47plk9vb90a2nk@4ax.com... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thus spake "kevin" <powershot80@gmail.com> : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a 2008 honda accord. The tires size 225r-50/70. >>>>>>>>>> I am buying winter tires. Can I put 215-r50-17? >>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>> kevin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes. But why? The diameter change will affect your speedo and >>>>>>>>> odo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read the post as using a narrower tire (215 vs 225) rather than >>>>>>>> a smaller diameter (17). I would think the wider tire would >>>>>>>> handle better and have better traction-- though yield a bit less >>>>>>>> mileage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a >>>>>>> lager area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JT >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow that's counter-intuitive. "Performance" tires are wide and >>>>>> low, racing slicks are wide, etc... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics. >>>>> >>>>> JT >>>>> >>>> >>>> eh? so why /do/ race cars use wide tires if they don't provide more >>>> traction??? be VERY careful how you answer this question jt. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Racing tires have NOTHING to do with the application in this thread. >>> >>> JT >>> >> >> but you said, and i quote: >> >> "A wider tire will have less traction as the load is spread over a lager >> area." >> >> you then went on to say: >> >> "Don't be fooled by violations of the laws of physics." >> >> now, please explain how a wider tire has less traction and why race cars >> have wider tires. thanks. >> > > > If I have to 'plain this simple fact to you, you have no business > dispensing advice this or any other group. > > G'bye, > > JT > JT, I virtually never dispense advice in this or any other group. Please explain it to me, and the many other readers who need to be enlightened. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- "The contest, for all ages, has been to rescue Liberty from the grasp of executive power." -- Daniel Webster (American Statesman, Senator and Orator, 1782-1852)
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