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Old 04 Oct 2008, 03:10 am
Al Reynolds
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Default New keys & locks for 97 Honda Accord = new immobiliser?

Hi,

I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in my bag
which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving licence which
was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the person who stole the
bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such I probably need to get the
locks changed.

I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and one
grey (valet) key.

My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?

I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks (1
ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new keys to the
car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can be trained to the
immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it possible that I might need a
new immobiliser unit as well?

Thanks in advance,
Al Reynolds


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Old 04 Oct 2008, 11:00 am
jim beam
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Al Reynolds wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in my bag
> which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving licence which
> was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the person who stole the
> bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such I probably need to get the
> locks changed.
>
> I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and one
> grey (valet) key.
>
> My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?
>
> I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks (1
> ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new keys to the
> car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can be trained to the
> immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it possible that I might need a
> new immobiliser unit as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al Reynolds
>
>


dude, it's an 11 year old car. and it's an accord wagon. and it's just
a key - they don't know what car it's for. if you were a crack-head
looking to make a couple of bucks by trying to steal some guy's bag and
hoping to get your laptop, but instead, all they get is a bunch of
soiled undies, a few bucks from a wallet, and a drivers license, do you
really think they're going to drive across town to your house, just in
case this key with "honda" written on it is something sexy like a
prelude? or an s2000? no, they're going to dump your stuff in an alley
and head on out. maybe you'll get a call in 6 months from your local
cop shop asking whether you want your stuff back, but after it's been
part of the local vagrants urinal facilities for the intervening period,
maybe not.

besides, the cost of the lock change you're looking at is gigantic.
just get a steering wheel lock and forget about it.
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Old 04 Oct 2008, 11:07 am
Tony Hwang
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jim beam wrote:
> Al Reynolds wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in
>> my bag which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving
>> licence which was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the
>> person who stole the bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such
>> I probably need to get the locks changed.
>>
>> I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and
>> one grey (valet) key.
>>
>> My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?
>>
>> I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks
>> (1 ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new keys
>> to the car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can be
>> trained to the immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it
>> possible that I might need a new immobiliser unit as well?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Al Reynolds
>>

>
> dude, it's an 11 year old car. and it's an accord wagon. and it's just
> a key - they don't know what car it's for. if you were a crack-head
> looking to make a couple of bucks by trying to steal some guy's bag and
> hoping to get your laptop, but instead, all they get is a bunch of
> soiled undies, a few bucks from a wallet, and a drivers license, do you
> really think they're going to drive across town to your house, just in
> case this key with "honda" written on it is something sexy like a
> prelude? or an s2000? no, they're going to dump your stuff in an alley
> and head on out. maybe you'll get a call in 6 months from your local
> cop shop asking whether you want your stuff back, but after it's been
> part of the local vagrants urinal facilities for the intervening period,
> maybe not.
>
> besides, the cost of the lock change you're looking at is gigantic. just
> get a steering wheel lock and forget about it.

Hey,
Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!
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Old 04 Oct 2008, 02:47 pm
Al Reynolds
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"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hey,
> Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
> I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
> Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!


In a way, you're both right.

If I'd just had it nicked by a stranger I'd not be bothered about the lost
key
at all, but there's a strong possibility that this person works on the same
site
as me, and if they're prepared to nick my bag then they might well go back
to my car for more. I don't want to never be able to leave anything
valuable
in my car.

I was surprised to find that my local Honda service department were open
this morning, so I asked about possibilities. Top-end is replacement of the
whole system including all lock cylinders, keys, and the immobiliser unit
all
for 1000, which is more than double what the car is worth! Bottom end
of what they could offer would be to change just the door and tailgate locks
with non-coded keys so that I would have one key to open the doors and
one to start the car. This way if someone does have the key they can't get
in without breaking in, but they still wanted 300 just for that!

My car is only worth about 400 but to replace it with something similar
would cost me a lot more, and I wouldn't know what I was getting - I know
my car because I've kept it serviced and looked after it well, and that has
a lot of value in my book.

My current plan? I'm going for disabling the passenger and boot locks
(with a screwdriver), and I'll try and pick up a drivers door lock cylinder
and matching key so I can replace that cylinder. I hopefully should be able
to do the whole lot for less than 50.

If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!

Al





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Old 04 Oct 2008, 02:53 pm
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Al Reynolds wrote:
> "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hey,
>> Easy on him. That Honda may be his asset no. 1.
>> I couldn'care less for a 11 year old car.
>> Changing key/locks on doors may cost more than the value of car, LOL!

>
> In a way, you're both right.
>
> If I'd just had it nicked by a stranger I'd not be bothered about the
> lost key
> at all, but there's a strong possibility that this person works on
> the same site
> as me, and if they're prepared to nick my bag then they might well go
> back to my car for more. I don't want to never be able to leave
> anything valuable
> in my car.
>
> I was surprised to find that my local Honda service department were
> open this morning, so I asked about possibilities. Top-end is
> replacement of the whole system including all lock cylinders, keys,
> and the immobiliser unit all
> for 1000, which is more than double what the car is worth! Bottom
> end of what they could offer would be to change just the door and
> tailgate locks with non-coded keys so that I would have one key to
> open the doors and one to start the car. This way if someone does have
> the key they
> can't get in without breaking in, but they still wanted 300 just for
> that!
> My car is only worth about 400 but to replace it with something
> similar would cost me a lot more, and I wouldn't know what I was
> getting - I know my car because I've kept it serviced and looked
> after it well, and that has a lot of value in my book.
>
> My current plan? I'm going for disabling the passenger and boot locks
> (with a screwdriver), and I'll try and pick up a drivers door lock
> cylinder and matching key so I can replace that cylinder. I
> hopefully should be able to do the whole lot for less than 50.
>
> If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!
>
> Al


disconnecting the locks would be better than wrecking them and
confusing.(free) adding a deadlock to the drivers door would keep them out
(20 quid) Adding a disclok would mean the car is undrivable (70 quid) An
alarm system with pager will warn you wherever you are (100 quid) A hidden
switch will prevent it starting even with the right key (very cheap)

Mrcheerful


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Old 04 Oct 2008, 03:05 pm
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All you need to do is reprogram the immobilizer with the keys you have. The
old key will not then start the car. I would forget worrying about your keys
and start warring about identity threat as with your drivers license he can
steal a lot more...

"Al Reynolds" <ajr-news@bat400.com> wrote in message
news:TxFFk.135$my.122@newsfe12.ams2...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in my
> bag which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving licence
> which was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the person who
> stole the bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such I probably need
> to get the locks changed.
>
> I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and one
> grey (valet) key.
>
> My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?
>
> I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks (1
> ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new keys to the
> car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can be trained to the
> immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it possible that I might need
> a new immobiliser unit as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al Reynolds
>



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Old 04 Oct 2008, 03:50 pm
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>
> "Al Reynolds" <ajr-news@bat400.com> wrote in message
> news:TxFFk.135$my.122@newsfe12.ams2...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a 97 Honda Accord Aerodeck (Wagon) and one of the keys was in
>> my bag which was stolen. Unfortunately my address was on my driving
>> licence which was also in the bag, and it's also possible that the
>> person who stole the bag knows me and knows which is my car. As such
>> I probably need to get the locks changed.
>>
>> I still have the original red programming key, plus one black key and
>> one grey (valet) key.
>>
>> My question is: how much do I actually need to get changed?
>>
>> I was hoping that I would be able to get a new set of keys and locks
>> (1 ignition, 1 boot, 2 doors + 1 glovebox) and then train the new
>> keys to the car, but I don't know if a new set of keys and locks can
>> be trained to the immobiliser which is already in the car? Is it
>> possible that I might need a new immobiliser unit as well?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Al Reynolds
>>

>
>
>

relocated idiot top poster's comments...
"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in
news:x0QFk.2518$Ws1.626@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:

> All you need to do is reprogram the immobilizer with the keys you
> have. The old key will not then start the car. I would forget worrying
> about your keys and start warring about identity threat as with your
> drivers license he can steal a lot more...




yes;he now knows where you live,and possibly has your house keys,too.
And don't forget any garage door openers;that's an EASY way into someone's
house,as they can close the garage door after entry,and have lots of time
to work on an inner door unseen by neighbors.

--
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Old 05 Oct 2008, 03:34 am
Al Reynolds
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"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:x0QFk.2518$Ws1.626@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
> I would forget worrying about your keys and start warring about identity
> threat as with your drivers license he can steal a lot more...


Indeed.

It's a pisser.

Al


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Old 05 Oct 2008, 03:35 am
Al Reynolds
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> yes;he now knows where you live,and possibly has your house keys,too.
> And don't forget any garage door openers;that's an EASY way into someone's
> house,as they can close the garage door after entry,and have lots of time
> to work on an inner door unseen by neighbors.


House and garage locks were changed within two hours of theft being
discovered!



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Old 05 Oct 2008, 01:17 pm
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Al Reynolds wrote:

> If anyone has any better ideas I'd happily hear them!


Just buy a krooklok, steering wheel diskloc or whatever and use it at night
for a few months. If nothing's happened after then, forget about it.


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