Honda Car Forum

Thanks for all your replies.

I have found a recommended Honda wrench here in Sac. The first thing I
was SHOWN was the CRACKED RADIATOR! NO mention of this at all at the
dealership. The guy pulled the plugs and sees no evidence of coolant
on the plugs and will also run pressure test but so far discounts the
blown head gasket. I passed my last smog test and I'm moving to Texas
so I ain't concerned about the exhaust stuff although if it presents a
problem I will take that machine shop advice. The SRS thing.... we'll
wait and see what happens. I believe it may have just needed to be
reset. At any rate the light isn't on now.

So a new radiator, thermostat and the 120K service should run about
$600.

The dealership can kiss my ass and my money goodbye.

Cow



On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:51:05 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> did take
quill in hand and scribe thusly :

>"CowPunk©" wrote:
>[snip]
>
>> Fuel Service $ 89.95
>
>Unless you're having derivability problems that you can directly link to the
>fuel injectors, then I would deem this unnecessary. Use of a high quality gas
>with cleaners already in it should be able to keep the injectors ok.
>
>However, if you want to use a cleaner then there's a product called BG44k
>http://www.bgprod.com/. Use half a can per tank of gas and two tanks should do
>it.
>
>> Exhaust Manifold $393.69 leaking- rec. replace
>> due to too much rust and new
>> gasket will not seal)
>
>Are they talking about the surface that mates with the head? If so, then this
>can be resurfaced at a machine shop and the manifold should not need to be
>replaced.
>
>> SRS Unit $716.22 (failing code 08-5)
>
>The part is $460 from http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
>
>> Distributor O-ring $ 96.00
>
>That seems kind of pricey for what shouldn't be more than a half hours work max.
>
>> 2 rims (replacing bent ones) $156.25
>
>As long as the damage is minor, then these are likely a low priority considering
>the other work they're recommending.
>
>> Total $3092.00
>>
>> Holy Crow!
>
>Indeed! You are wise to seek out a second opinion.
>
>> I immediately started thinking "new car".
>
>I'm not familiar with the dealership that you were dealing with, but perhaps
>that's what they wanted you to think in order to encourage you to trade it in.
>
>> Then I get to researching and talking to salespeople and I just get sick
>> of the whole thing.
>>
>> So I thought I would ask here if anyone knows of a good Honda Wrench
>> in Sacramento.
>>
>
>If you were anywhere near Seattle, then I would recommend High Road Automotive,
>http://www.high-road.com. However, the 12 hour drive from Sacramento is
>probably a bit too far. Good Luck.
>
>Eric

Which dealer gave you that $3,000+ estimate? I'm in
Sacramento, too.

-- Don

"CowPunk©" wrote:
>
> Thanks for all your replies.
>
> I have found a recommended Honda wrench here in Sac. The first thing I
> was SHOWN was the CRACKED RADIATOR! NO mention of this at all at the
> dealership. The guy pulled the plugs and sees no evidence of coolant
> on the plugs and will also run pressure test but so far discounts the
> blown head gasket. I passed my last smog test and I'm moving to Texas
> so I ain't concerned about the exhaust stuff although if it presents a
> problem I will take that machine shop advice. The SRS thing.... we'll
> wait and see what happens. I believe it may have just needed to be
> reset. At any rate the light isn't on now.
>
> So a new radiator, thermostat and the 120K service should run about
> $600.
>
> The dealership can kiss my ass and my money goodbye.
>
> Cow
>
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:51:05 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> did take
> quill in hand and scribe thusly :
>
> >"CowPunk©" wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >> Fuel Service $ 89.95
> >
> >Unless you're having derivability problems that you can directly link to the
> >fuel injectors, then I would deem this unnecessary. Use of a high quality gas
> >with cleaners already in it should be able to keep the injectors ok.
> >
> >However, if you want to use a cleaner then there's a product called BG44k
> >http://www.bgprod.com/. Use half a can per tank of gas and two tanks should do
> >it.
> >
> >> Exhaust Manifold $393.69 leaking- rec. replace
> >> due to too much rust and new
> >> gasket will not seal)
> >
> >Are they talking about the surface that mates with the head? If so, then this
> >can be resurfaced at a machine shop and the manifold should not need to be
> >replaced.
> >
> >> SRS Unit $716.22 (failing code 08-5)
> >
> >The part is $460 from http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
> >
> >> Distributor O-ring $ 96.00
> >
> >That seems kind of pricey for what shouldn't be more than a half hours work max.
> >
> >> 2 rims (replacing bent ones) $156.25
> >
> >As long as the damage is minor, then these are likely a low priority considering
> >the other work they're recommending.
> >
> >> Total $3092.00
> >>
> >> Holy Crow!
> >
> >Indeed! You are wise to seek out a second opinion.
> >
> >> I immediately started thinking "new car".
> >
> >I'm not familiar with the dealership that you were dealing with, but perhaps
> >that's what they wanted you to think in order to encourage you to trade it in.
> >
> >> Then I get to researching and talking to salespeople and I just get sick
> >> of the whole thing.
> >>
> >> So I thought I would ask here if anyone knows of a good Honda Wrench
> >> in Sacramento.
> >>
> >
> >If you were anywhere near Seattle, then I would recommend High Road Automotive,
> >http://www.high-road.com. However, the 12 hour drive from Sacramento is
> >probably a bit too far. Good Luck.
> >
> >Eric

Who is the indy that was honest?
LT
"Don Enderton" <Enderton@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in message
news:3F4F9020.A307C40@nosuchaddress.duh...
> Which dealer gave you that $3,000+ estimate? I'm in
> Sacramento, too.
>
> -- Don
>
> "CowPunk©" wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all your replies.
> >
> > I have found a recommended Honda wrench here in Sac. The first thing I
> > was SHOWN was the CRACKED RADIATOR! NO mention of this at all at the
> > dealership. The guy pulled the plugs and sees no evidence of coolant
> > on the plugs and will also run pressure test but so far discounts the
> > blown head gasket. I passed my last smog test and I'm moving to Texas
> > so I ain't concerned about the exhaust stuff although if it presents a
> > problem I will take that machine shop advice. The SRS thing.... we'll
> > wait and see what happens. I believe it may have just needed to be
> > reset. At any rate the light isn't on now.
> >
> > So a new radiator, thermostat and the 120K service should run about
> > $600.
> >
> > The dealership can kiss my ass and my money goodbye.
> >
> > Cow
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:51:05 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> did take
> > quill in hand and scribe thusly :
> >
> > >"CowPunk©" wrote:
> > >[snip]
> > >
> > >> Fuel Service $ 89.95
> > >
> > >Unless you're having derivability problems that you can directly link
to the
> > >fuel injectors, then I would deem this unnecessary. Use of a high
quality gas
> > >with cleaners already in it should be able to keep the injectors ok.
> > >
> > >However, if you want to use a cleaner then there's a product called
BG44k
> > >http://www.bgprod.com/. Use half a can per tank of gas and two tanks
should do
> > >it.
> > >
> > >> Exhaust Manifold $393.69 leaking- rec. replace
> > >> due to too much rust and new
> > >> gasket will not seal)
> > >
> > >Are they talking about the surface that mates with the head? If so,
then this
> > >can be resurfaced at a machine shop and the manifold should not need to
be
> > >replaced.
> > >
> > >> SRS Unit $716.22 (failing code 08-5)
> > >
> > >The part is $460 from http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
> > >
> > >> Distributor O-ring $ 96.00
> > >
> > >That seems kind of pricey for what shouldn't be more than a half hours
work max.
> > >
> > >> 2 rims (replacing bent ones) $156.25
> > >
> > >As long as the damage is minor, then these are likely a low priority
considering
> > >the other work they're recommending.
> > >
> > >> Total $3092.00
> > >>
> > >> Holy Crow!
> > >
> > >Indeed! You are wise to seek out a second opinion.
> > >
> > >> I immediately started thinking "new car".
> > >
> > >I'm not familiar with the dealership that you were dealing with, but
perhaps
> > >that's what they wanted you to think in order to encourage you to trade
it in.
> > >
> > >> Then I get to researching and talking to salespeople and I just get
sick
> > >> of the whole thing.
> > >>
> > >> So I thought I would ask here if anyone knows of a good Honda Wrench
> > >> in Sacramento.
> > >>
> > >
> > >If you were anywhere near Seattle, then I would recommend High Road
Automotive,
> > >http://www.high-road.com. However, the 12 hour drive from Sacramento
is
> > >probably a bit too far. Good Luck.
> > >
> > >Eric

Neighborhood Garage 2301 Vehicle Dr., Rancho Cordova CA 916-635-0610


On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:43:18 GMT, "LT" <lorentheodore@hotmail.com>
did take quill in hand and scribe thusly :

>Who is the indy that was honest?
>LT
>"Don Enderton" <Enderton@nosuchaddress.duh> wrote in message
>news:3F4F9020.A307C40@nosuchaddress.duh...
>> Which dealer gave you that $3,000+ estimate? I'm in
>> Sacramento, too.
>>
>> -- Don
>>
>> "CowPunk©" wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for all your replies.
>> >
>> > I have found a recommended Honda wrench here in Sac. The first thing I
>> > was SHOWN was the CRACKED RADIATOR! NO mention of this at all at the
>> > dealership. The guy pulled the plugs and sees no evidence of coolant
>> > on the plugs and will also run pressure test but so far discounts the
>> > blown head gasket. I passed my last smog test and I'm moving to Texas
>> > so I ain't concerned about the exhaust stuff although if it presents a
>> > problem I will take that machine shop advice. The SRS thing.... we'll
>> > wait and see what happens. I believe it may have just needed to be
>> > reset. At any rate the light isn't on now.
>> >
>> > So a new radiator, thermostat and the 120K service should run about
>> > $600.
>> >
>> > The dealership can kiss my ass and my money goodbye.
>> >
>> > Cow
>> >
>> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:51:05 -0700, Eric <say.no@spam.now> did take
>> > quill in hand and scribe thusly :
>> >
>> > >"CowPunk©" wrote:
>> > >[snip]
>> > >
>> > >> Fuel Service $ 89.95
>> > >
>> > >Unless you're having derivability problems that you can directly link
>to the
>> > >fuel injectors, then I would deem this unnecessary. Use of a high
>quality gas
>> > >with cleaners already in it should be able to keep the injectors ok.
>> > >
>> > >However, if you want to use a cleaner then there's a product called
>BG44k
>> > >http://www.bgprod.com/. Use half a can per tank of gas and two tanks
>should do
>> > >it.
>> > >
>> > >> Exhaust Manifold $393.69 leaking- rec. replace
>> > >> due to too much rust and new
>> > >> gasket will not seal)
>> > >
>> > >Are they talking about the surface that mates with the head? If so,
>then this
>> > >can be resurfaced at a machine shop and the manifold should not need to
>be
>> > >replaced.
>> > >
>> > >> SRS Unit $716.22 (failing code 08-5)
>> > >
>> > >The part is $460 from http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
>> > >
>> > >> Distributor O-ring $ 96.00
>> > >
>> > >That seems kind of pricey for what shouldn't be more than a half hours
>work max.
>> > >
>> > >> 2 rims (replacing bent ones) $156.25
>> > >
>> > >As long as the damage is minor, then these are likely a low priority
>considering
>> > >the other work they're recommending.
>> > >
>> > >> Total $3092.00
>> > >>
>> > >> Holy Crow!
>> > >
>> > >Indeed! You are wise to seek out a second opinion.
>> > >
>> > >> I immediately started thinking "new car".
>> > >
>> > >I'm not familiar with the dealership that you were dealing with, but
>perhaps
>> > >that's what they wanted you to think in order to encourage you to trade
>it in.
>> > >
>> > >> Then I get to researching and talking to salespeople and I just get
>sick
>> > >> of the whole thing.
>> > >>
>> > >> So I thought I would ask here if anyone knows of a good Honda Wrench
>> > >> in Sacramento.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >If you were anywhere near Seattle, then I would recommend High Road
>Automotive,
>> > >http://www.high-road.com. However, the 12 hour drive from Sacramento
>is
>> > >probably a bit too far. Good Luck.
>> > >
>> > >Eric
>

"CowPunk©" wrote:
> [snip]
>
> I passed my last smog test and I'm moving to Texas so I ain't concerned
> about the exhaust stuff although if it presents a problem I will take
> that machine shop advice.

Is the exhaust manifold actually leaking at this time? If it isn't, then it
probably won't be a problem for you. However, if it is, then it could warp the
manifold flange surfaces at the head such that they won't seal even with a new
gasket especially if you let it go too long.

Eric