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OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The lock
is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I can
still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle on
both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like they're
not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of linkage
or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to a
dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem out
or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks on
the door, are they tied in to this somehow?

Hi,
Your guess is right. Remove door panel and look, see.
Linkage is disconnected or broken(not likely). A c-clip fell off
or small part is worn out.
Tony

D/A Fischer wrote:

> OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The lock
> is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I can
> still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle on
> both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like they're
> not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of linkage
> or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to a
> dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem out
> or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
> himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks on
> the door, are they tied in to this somehow?
>
>

Of course, I'm 99% sure you have to OPEN the door to remove the interior
panel. Once the panel is off, you'll probably see the problem if you
inspect things carefully. How to open the door is a tricky question. I'm
sure it can be done, but I don't know how.


"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:qXA2b.848795$3C2.19016009@news3.calgary.shaw. ca...
> Hi,
> Your guess is right. Remove door panel and look, see.
> Linkage is disconnected or broken(not likely). A c-clip fell off
> or small part is worn out.
> Tony
>
> D/A Fischer wrote:
>
> > OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The
lock
> > is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I
can
> > still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle
on
> > both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like
they're
> > not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of
linkage
> > or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to
a
> > dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem
out
> > or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
> > himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks
on
> > the door, are they tied in to this somehow?
> >
> >
>

I am thinking something your son did, dis abled the door, call the dealer or
look in the owners manual under child proof locks.

Tom
"D/A Fischer" <desertfisch@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:GNA2b.3880$3E.1455@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The
lock
> is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I can
> still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle on
> both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like they're
> not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of linkage
> or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to a
> dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem
out
> or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
> himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks on
> the door, are they tied in to this somehow?
>
>

"Peter Doherty" <peter@acranox.org> wrote in message news:<unK2b.265363$o%2.121302@sccrnsc02>...
> Of course, I'm 99% sure you have to OPEN the door to remove the interior
> panel. Once the panel is off, you'll probably see the problem if you
> inspect things carefully. How to open the door is a tricky question. I'm
> sure it can be done, but I don't know how.


you can try a slim jim that's bent just right to catch the opening
lever on the latch. the childproof part only affects the inside
handle. you likely have a broken latch. pull the panel off with the
door closed, sometimes you have to pull the seat out, but i do it all
the time. haven't broken a panel yet.
Chip

I've been able to get the door open, took out the inside handle, pulled on
the rod and it opened. Still not sure what happened. Of course now you can
only open the door from the inside, it seems that the outside handle is
messed up, almost like it's not connected. I've been able to get the inside
panel off about 80% but the sticking point is the handle you grab to open
and close the door.

"D/A Fischer" <desertfisch@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:GNA2b.3880$3E.1455@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The
lock
> is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I can
> still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle on
> both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like they're
> not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of linkage
> or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to a
> dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem
out
> or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
> himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks on
> the door, are they tied in to this somehow?
>
>

"D/A Fischer" <desertfisch@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bY13b.5518$3E.2334@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> I've been able to get the door open, took out the inside handle, pulled on
> the rod and it opened. Still not sure what happened. Of course now you
can
> only open the door from the inside, it seems that the outside handle is
> messed up, almost like it's not connected. I've been able to get the
inside
> panel off about 80% but the sticking point is the handle you grab to open
> and close the door.

Are you sure that you've removed all of the fasteners?

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

Now that you've gotten it opened, you might try flipping the child safety
lock back and forth in case it is somehow stuck between on & off and causing
the problem.

On 8/27/03 8:00 AM, in article
bY13b.5518$3E.2334@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.ne t, "D/A Fischer"
<desertfisch@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I've been able to get the door open, took out the inside handle, pulled on
> the rod and it opened. Still not sure what happened. Of course now you can
> only open the door from the inside, it seems that the outside handle is
> messed up, almost like it's not connected. I've been able to get the inside
> panel off about 80% but the sticking point is the handle you grab to open
> and close the door.
>
> "D/A Fischer" <desertfisch@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:GNA2b.3880$3E.1455@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>> OK here's the deal, the right rear door on my 97 Civic won't open. The
> lock
>> is still working, atleast that's what I'm figuring considering that I can
>> still work it with the electric lock system. When you move the handle on
>> both the outside and inside they are both very fluid, almost like they're
>> not attached to anything. I'm figuring that there is some sort of linkage
>> or cabling that has broke. Am I correct on that? Short of taking it to a
>> dealer, is there any way to remove the inside trim to check this problem
> out
>> or am I screwed? I figure I'm not the first one to have this happen to
>> himself. One last thing, my son was playing with the child proof locks on
>> the door, are they tied in to this somehow?
>>
>>
>
>

I've got the same problem with both passenger-side doors on my 97 Honda,
and I find most of my friends are able to enter and exit through the
windows, Dukes-of-Hazzard-style, just fine...

....NOT. As a matter of fact, I'd appreciate it if somebody could post
a description of the method for removing the inside door panel. I was
going to try the 'go monkey with it' method, but I thought I'd see if I
could get a LITTLE more info than that first, lest I break something
that's not already broken.

Thanks-


--
Stan_the_Bat
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