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#1 (**permalink**) 23 Aug 2003, 09:44 pm

John D. wrote:
>snip<
> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear out
> the
> water pump bearing

UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in
contact with the shaft bearings!

--

~~Philip

"Don't let school get in the way of
your education" Dennis Pragar

#2 (**permalink**) 24 Aug 2003, 01:52 pm

Then please explain what the problem is, as many people say, with
coolants that have those chemicals in them? Or is that just another
urban legend.

John D.

"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net>...
> John D. wrote:
> >snip<
> > I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear out
> > the
> > water pump bearing
>
> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in
> contact with the shaft bearings!

#3 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 12:50 am

Tegger® wrote:
> "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in
> news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net:
>
>> John D. wrote:
>>> snip<
>>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear
>>> out the
>>> water pump bearing
>>
>> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in
>> contact with the shaft bearings!
>
>
> But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would
> eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it
> not?

Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate
acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.!
--

~~Philip

"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

#4 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 12:48 pm

For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do
a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water
pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water
pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump
lubricant around anymore.

John D.

"Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<1th2b.2318$Jh2.1610@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net>...
> Tegger® wrote:
> > "Philip®" <chipstate@earthlink.net> doodled aimlessly in
> > news:WDV1b.1031$3E.610@newsread3.news.pas.earthlin k.net:
> >
> >> John D. wrote:
> >>> snip<
> >>> I'm also not convinved that silicates/borates actually DO wear
> >>> out the
> >>> water pump bearing
> >>
> >> UNLESS the mechanical seal is faulty, coolant does not come in
> >> contact with the shaft bearings!
> >
> >
> > But silicates tend to wear away the seal, and that would
> > eventually lead to ingress of coolant into the bearing, would it
> > not?
>
> Maybe silicates contribute to wear and then maybe a film of silicate
> acts as a "lubricant" in the stricter sense of the word. Hmmmm.!

#5 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 02:56 pm

"John D." wrote:
>
> For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do
> a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water
> pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water
> pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump
> lubricant around anymore.
>

Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for
them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at
a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen
the stuff at an independent Honda shop.

#6 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 07:02 pm

Eric <say.no@spam.now> doodled aimlessly in
news:3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now:

> "John D." wrote:
>>
>> For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to
>> do a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water
>> pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water
>> pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water
>> pump lubricant around anymore.
>>
>
> Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who
> makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting
> is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was
> true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda
> shop.
>

I don't know about "water pump lubricant", but they certainly do sell their
own coolant. I have a gallon jug of it in front of me as I type. All it
says on it is "Distributed by Honda Canada. Made in USA".

--
TeGGeR®

#7 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 08:07 pm

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:34:42 +0000, Philip® wrote:

> Tom Hamilton wrote:
>>> ~~Philip
>>>
>>> "Don't let school get in the way of
>>> your education" Dennis Pragar
>>
>> Isn't that a Twain quotation?
>
> Looked up the quote. I'll make an adjustment. Thank you!
>
> --
>
> ~~Philip
>
> "Never let school interfere
> with your education - Mark Twain"

Just remember, clothes make the man, naked people have little or no effect
on society.

Just because I am from Hartford I will plug this

http://www.marktwainhouse.org/

#8 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 10:00 pm

IIRC, the water pump lubricant I used were made by Prestone...in those
small yellow cans. But as I said, I haven't seen them
lately...definitely looked for them at Autozone recently but they said
they didn't carry them anymore.

I think Zerex makes one though...don't know about Nissan.

John D.

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:<3F4A69F5.202E323B@spam.now>...
> "John D." wrote:
> >
> > For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to do
> > a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water
> > pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water
> > pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water pump
> > lubricant around anymore.
> >
>
> Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who makes it for
> them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting is that I had someone at
> a dealer parts counter deny that this was true even though I've actually seen
> the stuff at an independent Honda shop.

#9 (**permalink**) 25 Aug 2003, 11:31 pm

"Tegger®" wrote:
>
> > "John D." wrote:
> >>
> >> For many years with my old Datsun, the standard routine would be to
> >> do a chemical flush and refill with Prestone, then add a can of water
> >> pump lubricant...hoping to take care of both corrosion AND the water
> >> pump at the same time. Lately, I haven't seen those cans of water
> >> pump lubricant around anymore.
> >>
> >
> > Honda sells their own water pump lubricant though I'm not sure who
> > makes it for them or if they make it themselves. What's interesting
> > is that I had someone at a dealer parts counter deny that this was
> > true even though I've actually seen the stuff at an independent Honda
> > shop.
> >
>
> I don't know about "water pump lubricant", but they certainly do sell their
> own coolant. I have a gallon jug of it in front of me as I type. All it
> says on it is "Distributed by Honda Canada. Made in USA".
>

Honda Water Pump Lubricant P/N 08798-9005 H/C 4212049
http://tinyurl.com/l6tc

#10 (**permalink**) 26 Aug 2003, 08:02 pm

Eric <say.no@spam.now> doodled aimlessly in
news:3F4AE2BF.ABE96978@spam.now:

> "Tegger®" wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> I don't know about "water pump lubricant", but they certainly do sell
>> their own coolant. I have a gallon jug of it in front of me as I
>> type. All it says on it is "Distributed by Honda Canada. Made in
>> USA".
>>
>
> Honda Water Pump Lubricant P/N 08798-9005 H/C 4212049
> http://tinyurl.com/l6tc

I stand corrected.

--
TeGGeR®

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