Honda Car Forum

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in
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>> "Wayne" <wayne2201@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9ADC7A457AEFAwayne2201yahoocom@207.115.33. 102...
>>> The new Civics have a digital readout on the oil quality. The dealer
>>> said we should change the oil at 40%. Is that just the first oil
>>> change or all changes? Should we wait until 10% or less?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Wayne
>>
>> Bullshit. Please read your owners manual. It will answer this question
>> and it is loaded with all kinds of other useful information.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I can't BELIEVE that people would seek 'advice' from newsgroup posters
> before their own new auto's owner's manual.
> Especially on something like a new car's oil changes.
> Or that anyone would trust a "digital readout of oil quality".
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

We agree up to your last line. If someone is going to follow their Honda
owners manual, then he will pay attention to the Maintenance Minder display.
From what I have been reading on this and other forums, people love their
Hondas and trust the engineering behind them, except when it comes to oil
changes. Regarding oil and filter changes, many people want to change the
oil following the same schedule that grandpa did on his old Chrysler or
whatever, rather than the following the recommendations of Honda. It
escapes me why some people fancy themselves as more knowledgeable about
their car's maintenance requirements than the engineers who designed the
cars in the first place.

Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.

Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
Haven't changed oil yet.

Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at 6800+
miles.

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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in
> news:wVpfk.257912$Tj3.163748@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com:
>
>>
>> "Wayne" <wayne2201@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9ADC7A457AEFAwayne2201yahoocom@207.115.33. 102...
>>> The new Civics have a digital readout on the oil quality. The dealer
>>> said we should change the oil at 40%. Is that just the first oil
>>> change or all changes? Should we wait until 10% or less?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Wayne
>>
>> Bullshit. Please read your owners manual. It will answer this question
>> and it is loaded with all kinds of other useful information.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I can't BELIEVE that people would seek 'advice' from newsgroup posters
> before their own new auto's owner's manual.
> Especially on something like a new car's oil changes.
> Or that anyone would trust a "digital readout of oil quality".
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

We agree up to your last line. If someone is going to follow their Honda
owners manual, then he will pay attention to the Maintenance Minder display.
From what I have been reading on this and other forums, people love their
Hondas and trust the engineering behind them, except when it comes to oil
changes. Regarding oil and filter changes, many people want to change the
oil following the same schedule that grandpa did on his old Chrysler or
whatever, rather than the following the recommendations of Honda. It
escapes me why some people fancy themselves as more knowledgeable about
their car's maintenance requirements than the engineers who designed the
cars in the first place.

"trailer" <dummy@dum.com> wrote in
news:g5odla$boa$1@registered.motzarella.org:

> Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.
>
> Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
> Haven't changed oil yet.
>
> Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at
> 6800+ miles.

Now tell us HOW that maintenance minder arrives at the 30% figure of "oil
quality".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


>
> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9ADDC84C1CF2jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in
>> news:wVpfk.257912$Tj3.163748@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne" <wayne2201@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9ADC7A457AEFAwayne2201yahoocom@207.115.33. 102...
>>>> The new Civics have a digital readout on the oil quality. The
>>>> dealer said we should change the oil at 40%. Is that just the first
>>>> oil change or all changes? Should we wait until 10% or less?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Wayne
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Please read your owners manual. It will answer this
>>> question and it is loaded with all kinds of other useful
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can't BELIEVE that people would seek 'advice' from newsgroup
>> posters before their own new auto's owner's manual.
>> Especially on something like a new car's oil changes.
>> Or that anyone would trust a "digital readout of oil quality".
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
> We agree up to your last line. If someone is going to follow their
> Honda owners manual, then he will pay attention to the Maintenance
> Minder display. From what I have been reading on this and other
> forums, people love their Hondas and trust the engineering behind
> them, except when it comes to oil changes. Regarding oil and filter
> changes, many people want to change the oil following the same
> schedule that grandpa did on his old Chrysler or whatever, rather than
> the following the recommendations of Honda. It escapes me why some
> people fancy themselves as more knowledgeable about their car's
> maintenance requirements than the engineers who designed the cars in
> the first place.
>
>
>

don' know Jim.

From what the dealer told me, driving habits figure in the computation.

I'm a lightfoot.

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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"trailer" <dummy@dum.com> wrote in
news:g5odla$boa$1@registered.motzarella.org:

> Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.
>
> Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
> Haven't changed oil yet.
>
> Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at
> 6800+ miles.

Now tell us HOW that maintenance minder arrives at the 30% figure of "oil
quality".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


>
> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in message
> news:xkCfk.219079$Uf4.25427@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9ADDC84C1CF2jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>> "Truckdude" <shrub@thedeecider.com> wrote in
>> news:wVpfk.257912$Tj3.163748@en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne" <wayne2201@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9ADC7A457AEFAwayne2201yahoocom@207.115.33. 102...
>>>> The new Civics have a digital readout on the oil quality. The
>>>> dealer said we should change the oil at 40%. Is that just the first
>>>> oil change or all changes? Should we wait until 10% or less?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Wayne
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Please read your owners manual. It will answer this
>>> question and it is loaded with all kinds of other useful
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I can't BELIEVE that people would seek 'advice' from newsgroup
>> posters before their own new auto's owner's manual.
>> Especially on something like a new car's oil changes.
>> Or that anyone would trust a "digital readout of oil quality".
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
> We agree up to your last line. If someone is going to follow their
> Honda owners manual, then he will pay attention to the Maintenance
> Minder display. From what I have been reading on this and other
> forums, people love their Hondas and trust the engineering behind
> them, except when it comes to oil changes. Regarding oil and filter
> changes, many people want to change the oil following the same
> schedule that grandpa did on his old Chrysler or whatever, rather than
> the following the recommendations of Honda. It escapes me why some
> people fancy themselves as more knowledgeable about their car's
> maintenance requirements than the engineers who designed the cars in
> the first place.
>
>
>

trailer wrote:
> don' know Jim.
>
> From what the dealer told me, driving habits figure in the computation.


"driving habits"? sure! "driving" is part of the computation too!

as i understand it, the math is done on things like # of cold starts,
time idling, time at high revs, full throttle use, engine temperature, etc.

i believe # of cold starts is the biggest factor for the average driver.


>
> I'm a lightfoot.
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9ADEB9BE8993jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.84...
> "trailer" <dummy@dum.com> wrote in
> news:g5odla$boa$1@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.
>>
>> Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
>> Haven't changed oil yet.
>>
>> Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at
>> 6800+ miles.
>
> Now tell us HOW that maintenance minder arrives at the 30% figure of "oil
> quality".
>

"trailer" <dummy@dum.com> wrote in message
news:g5odla$boa$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.
>
> Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
> Haven't changed oil yet.
>
> Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at 6800+
> miles.
>

My wife's '07 Accord first oil change was at 6800 miles and my '08 Fit first
oil change was at 8000 miles.

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9ADEB9BE8993jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.84...
> "trailer" <dummy@dum.com> wrote in
> news:g5odla$boa$1@registered.motzarella.org:
>
>> Don't drive a Civic, but a 2008 Ridgeline.
>>
>> Dealer told me to use the maintenance minder when I purchased the car.
>> Haven't changed oil yet.
>>
>> Now at 4800 miles-display says 30%. Figures out to change oil at
>> 6800+ miles.
>
> Now tell us HOW that maintenance minder arrives at the 30% figure of "oil
> quality".
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net
>

From my 2008 Fit <drum roll> owner's manual:

"Based on the engine operating conditions and accumulated engine
revolutions, the onboard computer in your vehicle calculates the remaining
oil life and displays it as a percentage."

See? Full of all kinds of useful information. ;-)