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Old 17 Jul 2008, 12:27 pm
rickylowary@gmail.com
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Default Re: crank angle sensor

here is a picture(if this thing will let me) to give you a better idea
of what i'm seeing.
[IMG]http://
img229.imageshack.us/img229/8295/picaz6.th.jpg[/IMG]


i know that i need to re-do the silicone on the valve cover but see
how it is leaking below that...is that a seal? the other leak we have
already determined is coming from the distributor.

thanks ricky
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Old 17 Jul 2008, 12:27 pm
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Default Re: crank angle sensor

here is a picture(if this thing will let me) to give you a better idea
of what i'm seeing.
[IMG]http://
img229.imageshack.us/img229/8295/picaz6.th.jpg[/IMG]


i know that i need to re-do the silicone on the valve cover but see
how it is leaking below that...is that a seal? the other leak we have
already determined is coming from the distributor.

thanks ricky
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Old 17 Jul 2008, 10:50 pm
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rickylowary@gmail.com wrote:
> here is a picture(if this thing will let me) to give you a better idea
> of what i'm seeing.
> [IMG]http://
> img229.imageshack.us/img229/8295/picaz6.th.jpg[/IMG]

>
> i know that i need to re-do the silicone on the valve cover but see
> how it is leaking below that...is that a seal?


no, it's a gasket. you need to replace the whole gasket assembly on the
rocker cover, including the "b" seals. and this time, do NOT use
silicone like you did last time!!! use permatex #2 non-hardening
sealant, in the corners of the gasket area only. do NOT use anything
else, even if the dude in the shop tries to sell you something different
because he doesn't have it. and scrape /all/ that old silicone crap off
there first. every little bit. once broken, it doesn't re-seal, hence
the leakage.


> the other leak we have
> already determined is coming from the distributor.
>
> thanks ricky


that's a distributor replacement job if it's bad enough.
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Old 17 Jul 2008, 11:13 pm
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awesome, i'm glad i finally know what is goin on. you wouldn't happen
to have a link or anything that shows the gasket set that you are
talking about would you? i'm lookin all over the place to try and find
what you are talking about...and i promise i i will use permatex!

thanks so much
Ricky

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Old 17 Jul 2008, 11:46 pm
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rickylowary@gmail.com wrote:
> awesome, i'm glad i finally know what is goin on. you wouldn't happen
> to have a link or anything that shows the gasket set that you are
> talking about would you? i'm lookin all over the place to try and find
> what you are talking about...and i promise i i will use permatex!
>
> thanks so much
> Ricky
>


http://catalog.worldpac.com/ibusines...ver+Gasket+Set

http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut..._2_Sealant.htm

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Old 18 Jul 2008, 12:21 am
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oo a valve cover gasket...yea i installed a permatex the other
day....i guess i took a bad angle of the picture, but its not coming
from the silicone seal on the valve/rocker cover gasket...its the
metal piece that holds the rocker arm that is right under it..the
metal to metal parts. where the arrow is on the right side is the part
the distributor bolts onto in the top and has the hole for the
distributor, the leak is coming from the bottom of that part. i can't
find a name on it anywhere or else i would tell you...sorry for being
such a pain with this.

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Old 18 Jul 2008, 12:38 am
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rickylowary@gmail.com wrote:
> oo a valve cover gasket...yea i installed a permatex the other
> day....i guess i took a bad angle of the picture, but its not coming
> from the silicone seal on the valve/rocker cover gasket...its the
> metal piece that holds the rocker arm that is right under it..the
> metal to metal parts. where the arrow is on the right side is the part
> the distributor bolts onto in the top and has the hole for the
> distributor, the leak is coming from the bottom of that part. i can't
> find a name on it anywhere or else i would tell you...sorry for being
> such a pain with this.
>


you'll have to take it all off, remove and clean up the cam bearing
cover - the arrowed bit - put a little permatex #2 sealant under it, GET
RID OF ALL THAT SILICONE CRAP and put it back together with another new
gasket. yes, i know you just put one on there, but they don't seal on
re-use very well.
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Old 18 Jul 2008, 12:42 am
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jim beam wrote:
> rickylowary@gmail.com wrote:
>> oo a valve cover gasket...yea i installed a permatex the other
>> day....i guess i took a bad angle of the picture, but its not coming
>> from the silicone seal on the valve/rocker cover gasket...its the
>> metal piece that holds the rocker arm that is right under it..the
>> metal to metal parts. where the arrow is on the right side is the part
>> the distributor bolts onto in the top and has the hole for the
>> distributor, the leak is coming from the bottom of that part. i can't
>> find a name on it anywhere or else i would tell you...sorry for being
>> such a pain with this.
>>

>
> you'll have to take it all off, remove and clean up the cam bearing
> cover - the arrowed bit - put a little permatex #2 sealant under it,


and when i say a little, i mean it. you do /not/ want to fill the
threads of the bolts or affect the clearances. just dab a little on a
finger, then smear the finger on the mating surface so it's just
discolored with the stuff. the bolt pressure on reassembly will squeeze
it into forming the seal you need.


> GET
> RID OF ALL THAT SILICONE CRAP and put it back together with another new
> gasket. yes, i know you just put one on there, but they don't seal on
> re-use very well.

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Old 18 Jul 2008, 01:10 am
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got it...thanks. getting a new distributor tomorrow and will do a
follow up with the results. thanks again for all your help


Ricky

Just so we are on the same page, you can see the outline on these pics
a little better of the valve cover gasket:
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[URL=http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00023xr2.jpg]
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Just wanting to make sure that if you see the brown line under the
silicone on the metal to metal parts and reference that with the
picture i posted before....if you are correct that is the valve
cover? i figured it would be best to post as many pictures as
possible in case anyone having these same problems can have ease in
this thread...sorry for the quality though, its dark outside..
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Old 19 Jul 2008, 09:46 am
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rickylowary@gmail.com wrote:
> got it...thanks. getting a new distributor tomorrow and will do a
> follow up with the results. thanks again for all your help
>
>
> Ricky
>
> Just so we are on the same page, you can see the outline on these pics
> a little better of the valve cover gasket:
> [URL=http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00026ny1.jpg]


check for missing bolts...


> [/
> URL]
> [URL=http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00023xr2.jpg]
> [/
> URL]
>
> Just wanting to make sure that if you see the brown line under the
> silicone on the metal to metal parts and reference that with the
> picture i posted before....if you are correct that is the valve
> cover? i figured it would be best to post as many pictures as
> possible in case anyone having these same problems can have ease in
> this thread...sorry for the quality though, its dark outside..


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