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Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?

If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
recommend / condemn ? ?

'Curly'
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In article <3F33A86F.501D8840@_interbaun.com>, "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote:
>Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
>CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
>
>If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
>recommend / condemn ? ?
>
>'Curly'

Just because the boots are ripped it doesn't mean you're
done for. A garage noticed my were torn and said I should
replace them asap. I left until the CV joints were unbearably
noisy, almost 3 years and 20K miles. It's a ceap swap these
days anyway.

Uncle Mike wrote:
>
> In article <3F33A86F.501D8840@_interbaun.com>, "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote:
> >Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
> >CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
> >
> >If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
> >recommend / condemn ? ?
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Just because the boots are ripped it doesn't mean you're
> done for. A garage noticed my were torn and said I should
> replace them asap. I left until the CV joints were unbearably
> noisy, almost 3 years and 20K miles. It's a ceap swap these
> days anyway.

What's the everage for boot life under city driving conditions?

I have 51K on my Civic and they still look good.

mikE

I use "Sil-Glyde" silicone grease from American Grease Cartridge Co.
(AGC)...smear some all over the boots, brake hoses and even the rubber
muffler hangers. Good for rubber parts. Sil-Glyde is also used in
brake work.

http://agscompany.com/productFS/lubes/sl29.html

It's in a small red/white/blue tube (the item numbered "SG-2" on the
left in the product images on the above website).

Unfortunately, it seems to be hard to find. The company says NAPA
carries it but didn't see it there...maybe it's under NAPA's brand. I
say that because if you go here:

http://www.panteraplace.com/page153.htm

....and scroll down a ways, it says:

"The O rings can be damaged when slipping them over the piston and
into the grooves so I used NAPA Sil-Glyde brake assembly lubricant
lightly on the O rings and piston to make the O rings easer to slide
onto the piston."

Here's another website that mentions Sil-Glyde:

http://www.icca.invensys.com/uniline/h/h18.pdf

Pep Boys USED to carry it. Didn;t see it at AutoZone.

Sil-Glyde is good stuff for CVJ boots...I pout it on all four of mine
as soon as I got the car, and any other rubber boots/cable covers I
saw. It'd be good for the air intake rubber, too.

If you can't find Sil-Glyde itself, some different brand but similar
silicone-based grease for rubber should be fine.

I buy tubes of it whenever I find some.

Good luck,

John D.




"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<3F33A86F.501D8840@_interbaun.com>...
> Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
> CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
>
> If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
> recommend / condemn ? ?
>
> 'Curly'

> What's the everage for boot life under city driving conditions?
>
> I have 51K on my Civic and they still look good.

On my '94 Civic I got 89k miles on the driver's side and 94k miles on
the passenger side. Both sides had very small rifts by the time of
detection and minimal loss of grease. I had the boots only replaced (not
the CV joint or the half shaft).

Yes, it's "Stick," not Cartridge. Sorry.

AGS should do much better with its product distrubution...fire whoever
is handling it now.

John D.




NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net (Rex B) wrote in message news:<3f3411c7.351151573@news.txol.net>...
> On 8 Aug 2003 13:22:08 -0700, jcdech@hotmail.com (John D.) wrote:
>
> |I use "Sil-Glyde" silicone grease from American Grease Cartridge Co.
> |(AGC)...smear some all over the boots, brake hoses and even the rubber
> |muffler hangers. Good for rubber parts. Sil-Glyde is also used in
> |brake work.
> |
> |http://agscompany.com/productFS/lubes/sl29.html
> |
> |It's in a small red/white/blue tube (the item numbered "SG-2" on the
> |left in the product images on the above website).
> |
> |Unfortunately, it seems to be hard to find. The company says NAPA
> |carries it but didn't see it there...maybe it's under NAPA's brand. I
> |say that because if you go here:
>
> The brand is actually AGS, used to stand for American Grease Stick, but I just
> got a letter saying they were dropping the wording as dated, and just using
> the letters. AGS is a pretty widespread company, with retailers all over the
> country. Unfortunately, that particular number may be hard to find. I work for
> a distributor that services 120+ stores all over TX & OK, and we don't even have
> Sil-Glyde in the system anymore, in any size. Maybe I'll get a sample sent in
> and try it for this purpose.

Probably depends on your driving style. The double wishbone suspension setup helps, but with my high
revving and hard cornering, they probably wouldn't last long unless sealed properly.

Pars
98 Hatch

Uncle Mike wrote:

> In article <3F33A86F.501D8840@_interbaun.com>, "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote:
> >Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
> >CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
> >
> >If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
> >recommend / condemn ? ?
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Just because the boots are ripped it doesn't mean you're
> done for. A garage noticed my were torn and said I should
> replace them asap. I left until the CV joints were unbearably
> noisy, almost 3 years and 20K miles. It's a ceap swap these
> days anyway.

Wouldn't grease attract dirt, which would grind away at the rubber? I think
the best maintenance would be to keep the boots clean with a mild soapy
wash.
Dave

"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0308081222.7fedb6c3@posting.google.c om...
> I use "Sil-Glyde" silicone grease from American Grease Cartridge Co.
> (AGC)...smear some all over the boots, brake hoses and even the rubber
> muffler hangers. Good for rubber parts. Sil-Glyde is also used in
> brake work.
>
> http://agscompany.com/productFS/lubes/sl29.html
>
> It's in a small red/white/blue tube (the item numbered "SG-2" on the
> left in the product images on the above website).
>
> Unfortunately, it seems to be hard to find. The company says NAPA
> carries it but didn't see it there...maybe it's under NAPA's brand. I
> say that because if you go here:
>
> http://www.panteraplace.com/page153.htm
>
> ...and scroll down a ways, it says:
>
> "The O rings can be damaged when slipping them over the piston and
> into the grooves so I used NAPA Sil-Glyde brake assembly lubricant
> lightly on the O rings and piston to make the O rings easer to slide
> onto the piston."
>
> Here's another website that mentions Sil-Glyde:
>
> http://www.icca.invensys.com/uniline/h/h18.pdf
>
> Pep Boys USED to carry it. Didn;t see it at AutoZone.
>
> Sil-Glyde is good stuff for CVJ boots...I pout it on all four of mine
> as soon as I got the car, and any other rubber boots/cable covers I
> saw. It'd be good for the air intake rubber, too.
>
> If you can't find Sil-Glyde itself, some different brand but similar
> silicone-based grease for rubber should be fine.
>
> I buy tubes of it whenever I find some.
>
> Good luck,
>
> John D.
>
>
>
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:<3F33A86F.501D8840@_interbaun.com>...
> > Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
> > CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
> >
> > If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
> > recommend / condemn ? ?
> >
> > 'Curly'

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:41:03 -0600, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote:

>Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
>CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?

Don't use these - they'll put a skin on the rubber which will eventually
crack and take the rubber with it.

I'd also advise against using any kind of spread on grease - it'll attract
dirt.

>If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
>recommend / condemn ? ?

I've been using silicone spray for years - my '92 Integra (125K miles)
still has original C/V boots which are now showing some sign of cracking on
the inner fold of the pleats. Preferably you want to use a medium silicone
spray, i.e. not dry or too wet, such as the CRC brand. Too wet attracts
dirt which turns into a gooey coating and too dry doesn't do much. I apply
when the car is jacked up for an oil change and I'm waiting for the oil to
drain.

Some of the new models have C/V boots made from TPE (thermo plastic
elastomer) material - feels harder except at the folds - instead of rubber
and I'm not sure if the silicone helps much there.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

Of course grease -- any kind -- attracts dirt, but it doesn't matter.

John D.



fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com (George Macdonald) wrote in message news:<3f35fc43.75370774@news.tellurian.com>...
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:41:03 -0600, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco_@_interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Are any of the ArmorAll or Black Again sprays suitable for keeping the
> >CV boots clean and 'refreshed' so they don't get dried out?
>
> Don't use these - they'll put a skin on the rubber which will eventually
> crack and take the rubber with it.
>
> I'd also advise against using any kind of spread on grease - it'll attract
> dirt.
>
> >If a boot could be made to last a year or two longer, what would you
> >recommend / condemn ? ?
>
> I've been using silicone spray for years - my '92 Integra (125K miles)
> still has original C/V boots which are now showing some sign of cracking on
> the inner fold of the pleats. Preferably you want to use a medium silicone
> spray, i.e. not dry or too wet, such as the CRC brand. Too wet attracts
> dirt which turns into a gooey coating and too dry doesn't do much. I apply
> when the car is jacked up for an oil change and I'm waiting for the oil to
> drain.
>
> Some of the new models have C/V boots made from TPE (thermo plastic
> elastomer) material - feels harder except at the folds - instead of rubber
> and I'm not sure if the silicone helps much there.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
>
> "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??