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Old 14 Jun 2008, 08:15 pm
lolajoker@webtv.net
 
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Default Re: 2008 Element plastic panels color match?

On Jun 14, 5:47*am, "L Alpert" <alpe...@xxgmail.com> wrote:
> <lolajo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:514a1ad4-cca1-4fc7-a2cf-39ab9e8b6a46@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 12:09 pm, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 6:09 am, lolajo...@webtv.net wrote:

>
> > > Someone backed into the rear quarter panel of my Element. The body
> > > shop needed to replace the plastic rear quarter panel. Honda no
> > > longerships them pre painted so the body shop needed to paint to
> > > match
> > > the panel. The color does not totally match. It is darker than the
> > > rest of the car. The body shop claims that they or any one else
> > > won't
> > > be able to perfectly match the color because plastic takes paint
> > > differently. Could this be true? The factory painted panels match.
> > > Is
> > > factory paint different than the paint bodyshops get? The
> > > insurance
> > > company is going along with the bodyshop on this.

>
> > Well, you have to account for some element of paint fading,
> > especially
> > with darker colors. You don't say how old your car is, or where you
> > live (i.e., Arizona sun would cause more fade than, say, Wisconsin
> > sun). Also, did they use panels from Honda, or an aftermarket
> > supplier? That could make a difference too.

>
> > Dan D
> > '07 Ody EX
> > Central NJ USA

>
> It is a 2008 Galaxy Grey metallic. I purchased it in Oct. I live in
> Denver CO. *It is always garaged, so I doubt there is any fading. I
> assume they got the panels from Honda. Honda no longer ships them pre-
> painted so the bodyshop had to color match the paint.
>
> -------
>
> How far off is "a shade"? *They should be able to properly match the
> paint within at least ±1 value of a pantone color chart.


The color is much darker with not enough metallic in it. The shop has
agreed to try to match it better. It should be done by tuesday.
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Old 15 Jun 2008, 08:57 am
L Alpert
 
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Default Re: 2008 Element plastic panels color match?


<lolajoker@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3e53d82b-27cf-4b39-9a4d-4913991b8d97@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 14, 5:47 am, "L Alpert" <alpe...@xxgmail.com> wrote:
> <lolajo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:514a1ad4-cca1-4fc7-a2cf-39ab9e8b6a46@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 12:09 pm, Dano58 <dan.dibi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 11, 6:09 am, lolajo...@webtv.net wrote:

>
> > > Someone backed into the rear quarter panel of my Element. The
> > > body
> > > shop needed to replace the plastic rear quarter panel. Honda no
> > > longerships them pre painted so the body shop needed to paint to
> > > match
> > > the panel. The color does not totally match. It is darker than
> > > the
> > > rest of the car. The body shop claims that they or any one else
> > > won't
> > > be able to perfectly match the color because plastic takes paint
> > > differently. Could this be true? The factory painted panels
> > > match.
> > > Is
> > > factory paint different than the paint bodyshops get? The
> > > insurance
> > > company is going along with the bodyshop on this.

>
> > Well, you have to account for some element of paint fading,
> > especially
> > with darker colors. You don't say how old your car is, or where
> > you
> > live (i.e., Arizona sun would cause more fade than, say, Wisconsin
> > sun). Also, did they use panels from Honda, or an aftermarket
> > supplier? That could make a difference too.

>
> > Dan D
> > '07 Ody EX
> > Central NJ USA

>
> It is a 2008 Galaxy Grey metallic. I purchased it in Oct. I live in
> Denver CO. It is always garaged, so I doubt there is any fading. I
> assume they got the panels from Honda. Honda no longer ships them
> pre-
> painted so the bodyshop had to color match the paint.
>
> -------
>
> How far off is "a shade"? They should be able to properly match the
> paint within at least ±1 value of a pantone color chart.


The color is much darker with not enough metallic in it. The shop has
agreed to try to match it better. It should be done by tuesday.

---

Sometimes one must become the proverbial squeaky wheel! Good for
you.....

Remember, any good body shop should also prep and overspray the
adjoining areas to blend in any minor differences. This is what was
done on my 04 Accord for replacing the fender and two door skins. The
overspray area included the roof, rear quarter panel and hood (and
what the insurance adjuster took into account in his estimate).


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