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Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote in
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> On Jun 10, 7:33*pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>> Chief_Bi...@hotmail.com wrote in
>> news:c32f8a45-baf9-4b16-a051-3812dd0ee701
>
>> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > I live/drive in Central Florida, where Summer temps average 85-95
>> > max. My dealer is
>> > claiming that this is an ‘extreme’ climate condition and wanting to
>> > use 5W-30 semi-synthetic blend oil, vs. the OEM recommended 5W-20,
>> > in my ’08 CR-V. I disagree, and would like to know what others
>> > think.
>>
>> > FYI: I’ve driven my 01 Civic 250,000 highway miles in this climate
>> > using the recommended 5W-20, and it STILL gets 38-40 mpg on I-95 at
>> > 70 mph.
>>
>> What does Honda say?
>>
>> Hint: The dealer is NOT Honda. Believe it or not.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I can't seem to find a method of contacting the Honda USA Help Desk
> directly...



Honda told you what to use in your Owner's Manual, which I assume you've
read.

The dealer is an independent company that owns a franchise purchased from
Honda. They are free to attempt to sell you whatever magick potions they
figure you can be manipulated into spending money on, whether Honda likes
it or not.

Honda is an especially diligent automaker, so what they officially
recommend is not to be readily sloughed off.

If you no longer have an Owner's Manual, you can get one for free, directly
from Honda (albeit as PDFs). Just ask how.

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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:51:28 -0700, Chief_Billy wrote:

>> > My dealer is claiming that this is an 'extreme' climate condition
>> > and wanting to use 5W-30 semi-synthetic blend oil, vs. the OEM
>> > recommended 5W-20, in my '08 CR-V. I disagree, and would like to know
>> > what others think.

>> I think your dealer is an asshole, who's trying to make an extra buck by
>> selling you "semi-synthetic" oil that you don't need.
>>
>> Tell him to **** off and put the 5W-20 in.

> I think your right. In fact, I might just do the oil change myself and
> document it to fulfill the maintenance/warranty requirements.

I've been changing my own oil for 30 years, largely because I am then
completely sure what oil and what filter went into it. Peace of mind is
worth a little effort.



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On Jun 11, 6:56*pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> Chief_Bi...@hotmail.com wrote innews:5a811e6f-30c8-4470-8f4c-0f7786a31b88@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 10, 7:33*pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> Chief_Bi...@hotmail.com wrote in
> >> news:c32f8a45-baf9-4b16-a051-3812dd0ee701
>
> >> @p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > I live/drive in Central Florida, where Summer temps average 85-95
> >> > max. My dealer is
> >> > claiming that this is an ‘extreme’ climate condition and wanting to
> >> > use 5W-30 semi-synthetic blend oil, vs. the OEM recommended 5W-20,
> >> > in my ’08 CR-V. I disagree, and would like to know what others
> >> > think.
>
> >> > FYI: I’ve driven my 01 Civic 250,000 highway miles in this climate
> >> > using the recommended 5W-20, and it STILL gets 38-40 mpg on I-95 at
> >> > 70 mph.
>
> >> What does Honda say?
>
> >> Hint: The dealer is NOT Honda. Believe it or not.
>
> > I can't seem to find a method of contacting the Honda USA Help Desk
> > directly... *
>
> Honda told you what to use in your Owner's Manual, which I assume you've
> read.
>
> The dealer is an independent company that owns a franchise purchased from
> Honda. They are free to attempt to sell you whatever magick potions they
> figure you can be manipulated into spending money on, whether Honda likes
> it or not.
>
> Honda is an especially diligent automaker, so what they officially
> recommend is not to be readily sloughed off.
>
> If you no longer have an Owner's Manual, you can get one for free, directly
> from Honda (albeit as PDFs). Just ask how.
>
> --
> Tegger


I have the Owners Manual, but in the Mainenance section it does not
give 'due dates' for many of the
service procedures. With my 01 Civic, I know exactly what needs to be
done and when. I think with the CR-V
it is supposed to pop up on the display with a letter A, B,
1,2,3..etc. each of which indicates one or more maintenance procedures
(A = change oil). I hate the computerized maintenance notifications.
I'm an EE, and am used to knowing and following
tight preventive maintenance procedures and schedules, and knowing
exactly what is due and when.

Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote in
news:5645f431-dcd7-4a95-8e6f-0d0c86d311fb@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:


>
> I have the Owners Manual, but in the Mainenance section it does not
> give 'due dates' for many of the
> service procedures. With my 01 Civic, I know exactly what needs to be
> done and when. I think with the CR-V
> it is supposed to pop up on the display with a letter A, B,
> 1,2,3..etc. each of which indicates one or more maintenance procedures
> (A = change oil). I hate the computerized maintenance notifications.
> I'm an EE, and am used to knowing and following
> tight preventive maintenance procedures and schedules, and knowing
> exactly what is due and when.



Maybe you are used to that, but vast hordes of unwashed proletarians are
not. It is for them that the Maintenance Minder was devised. Poor
maintenance is the #1 factor in excessive emissions.

Personally, I believe that if federal emissions limits weren't screwed down
so far, and if the automakers weren't saddled with federal emissions
warranty requirements, that Maintenance Minder would not be in your car
right now.

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"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

> Personally, I believe that if federal emissions limits weren't screwed
> down
> so far, and if the automakers weren't saddled with federal emissions
> warranty requirements, that Maintenance Minder would not be in your car
> right now.

Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty w/PZEV
vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08 Accord.

FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a lot of
parts in the emissions system.

"Polfus" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in
news:4852ef8f$0$5104$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>
>> Personally, I believe that if federal emissions limits weren't
>> screwed down
>> so far, and if the automakers weren't saddled with federal emissions
>> warranty requirements, that Maintenance Minder would not be in your
>> car right now.
>
> Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty
> w/PZEV vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08
> Accord.
>
> FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a
> lot of parts in the emissions system.
>
>
>



Guess who pays for all that? It's not Honda.

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Tegger

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"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>> Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty
>> w/PZEV vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08
>> Accord.
>>
>> FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a
>> lot of parts in the emissions system.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Guess who pays for all that? It's not Honda.

Who is it then? Who does Honda send the bill to after they pay whoever fixes
it, say if something happens in 2019?

I imagine you're gonna say taxpayers, but how does that work when if they
repair something on their car?

Peace,
Jason

"Jason" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote

> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>
>>> Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty
>>> w/PZEV vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08
>>> Accord.
>>>
>>> FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a
>>> lot of parts in the emissions system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Guess who pays for all that? It's not Honda.
>
> Who is it then? Who does Honda send the bill to after they pay whoever
> fixes it, say if something happens in 2019?
>
> I imagine you're gonna say taxpayers, but how does that work when if they
> repair something on their car?

Sorry...I meant "...I imagine you're gonna say taxpayers- but how does that
work when a Honda dealership, for example, repairs something on one of their
cars?"

Peace,
Jason

"Jason" <nostringscouldsecureyou@thestation> wrote in
news:48534c7d$0$7055$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>
>>> Hell, I'll take it if it means we get a 15-year Emissions Warranty
>>> w/PZEV vehicles (only 5 states have it so far IIRC) like the '08
>>> Accord.
>>>
>>> FIFTEEN year warranty is killer, especially since I read it covers a
>>> lot of parts in the emissions system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Guess who pays for all that? It's not Honda.
>
> Who is it then?



YOU. You pay for it in an increased purchase price for the car.




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"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in

> YOU. You pay for it in an increased purchase price for the car.

Aarrgg...yeah..the '08 Accord did take a bite out of my wallet.

Peace,
Jason