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Old 02 Jun 2008, 07:52 am
dgk
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Default Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

The guy says that it needs 4 new struts and a right axle. He is
correct. One front strut is leaking. I don't really care since I don't
drive it too much. Maybe 5,000 miles per year. The struts are probably
original

I don't think I'm going to bother with the struts. That's a lot of
money and if the body was in better shape I might, but there is a fair
amount of rust and it isn't getting any better. Mostly what I read
says that weak struts cause slightly longer braking time and less
precise handling. I'm not overly worried about a big crash or I'd
finally get a car with air bags.

It doesn't bounce much on the road, and only bounces once or twice
when pushed down.

I think I need to do the axle though; it's been clicking a bit
sometimes on left turns for two years.
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Old 02 Jun 2008, 08:55 am
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

dgk wrote:
> The guy says that it needs 4 new struts and a right axle. He is
> correct. One front strut is leaking. I don't really care since I don't
> drive it too much. Maybe 5,000 miles per year. The struts are probably
> original
>
> I don't think I'm going to bother with the struts. That's a lot of
> money and if the body was in better shape I might, but there is a fair
> amount of rust and it isn't getting any better. Mostly what I read
> says that weak struts cause slightly longer braking time and less
> precise handling. I'm not overly worried about a big crash or I'd
> finally get a car with air bags.
>
> It doesn't bounce much on the road, and only bounces once or twice
> when pushed down.
>
> I think I need to do the axle though; it's been clicking a bit
> sometimes on left turns for two years.



do you have a question?

and 91 accords are wishbone suspension, not strut. what you're talking
about are the shocks, or "damper units". just to be pedantic.
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Old 02 Jun 2008, 01:53 pm
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:55:46 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>dgk wrote:
>> The guy says that it needs 4 new struts and a right axle. He is
>> correct. One front strut is leaking. I don't really care since I don't
>> drive it too much. Maybe 5,000 miles per year. The struts are probably
>> original
>>
>> I don't think I'm going to bother with the struts. That's a lot of
>> money and if the body was in better shape I might, but there is a fair
>> amount of rust and it isn't getting any better. Mostly what I read
>> says that weak struts cause slightly longer braking time and less
>> precise handling. I'm not overly worried about a big crash or I'd
>> finally get a car with air bags.
>>
>> It doesn't bounce much on the road, and only bounces once or twice
>> when pushed down.
>>
>> I think I need to do the axle though; it's been clicking a bit
>> sometimes on left turns for two years.

>
>
>do you have a question?
>
>and 91 accords are wishbone suspension, not strut. what you're talking
>about are the shocks, or "damper units". just to be pedantic.


Right, two questions then. Is it ok to ignore the need for new struts?
And, will the axle collapse while I'm driving if I don't do anything
about it?

My (limited) understanding is that shocks are fairly cheap to replace,
but struts are a big deal and require suspension work and an
alignment. And I really do not want the axle to fall off the car while
I'm driving.


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Old 02 Jun 2008, 09:26 pm
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

dgk wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:55:46 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
>> dgk wrote:
>>> The guy says that it needs 4 new struts and a right axle. He is
>>> correct. One front strut is leaking. I don't really care since I don't
>>> drive it too much. Maybe 5,000 miles per year. The struts are probably
>>> original
>>>
>>> I don't think I'm going to bother with the struts. That's a lot of
>>> money and if the body was in better shape I might, but there is a fair
>>> amount of rust and it isn't getting any better. Mostly what I read
>>> says that weak struts cause slightly longer braking time and less
>>> precise handling. I'm not overly worried about a big crash or I'd
>>> finally get a car with air bags.
>>>
>>> It doesn't bounce much on the road, and only bounces once or twice
>>> when pushed down.
>>>
>>> I think I need to do the axle though; it's been clicking a bit
>>> sometimes on left turns for two years.

>>
>> do you have a question?
>>
>> and 91 accords are wishbone suspension, not strut. what you're talking
>> about are the shocks, or "damper units". just to be pedantic.

>
> Right, two questions then. Is it ok to ignore the need for new struts?


if they need to be replaced, replace them. otherwise, don't! take a
pic of the one that's supposed to be leaking and post it on tinypic.com
if you want an opinion.


> And, will the axle collapse while I'm driving if I don't do anything
> about it?


pedantically, the 91 accord doesn't have axles - it's independent
suspension front and rear. all a failing driveshaft will do is annoy
you and make the car vibrate.


>
> My (limited) understanding is that shocks are fairly cheap to replace,
> but struts are a big deal and require suspension work and an
> alignment. And I really do not want the axle to fall off the car while
> I'm driving.


shocks on a honda are non-trivial to replace because there are coil
springs over them. you need a special tool to safely disassemble and
replace. however, you don't need to re-align because the wishbones set
geometry and the shocks are independent of that. again, be sure you
need to replace them.
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Old 03 Jun 2008, 01:53 am
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?


"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
newsfc844l7j99slvecbt0vcqp21dbtefm7fq@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:55:46 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>

///snipped///
>>and 91 accords are wishbone suspension, not strut. what you're talking
>>about are the shocks, or "damper units". just to be pedantic.

>
> Right, two questions then. Is it ok to ignore the need for new struts?
> And, will the axle collapse while I'm driving if I don't do anything
> about it?
>
> My (limited) understanding is that shocks are fairly cheap to replace,
> but struts are a big deal and require suspension work and an
> alignment. And I really do not want the axle to fall off the car while
> I'm driving.


Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
unlikely.

DaveD


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Old 03 Jun 2008, 07:28 am
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:53:23 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
<dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:

>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>newsfc844l7j99slvecbt0vcqp21dbtefm7fq@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:55:46 -0700, jim beam
>> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>

>///snipped///
>>>and 91 accords are wishbone suspension, not strut. what you're talking
>>>about are the shocks, or "damper units". just to be pedantic.

>>
>> Right, two questions then. Is it ok to ignore the need for new struts?
>> And, will the axle collapse while I'm driving if I don't do anything
>> about it?
>>
>> My (limited) understanding is that shocks are fairly cheap to replace,
>> but struts are a big deal and require suspension work and an
>> alignment. And I really do not want the axle to fall off the car while
>> I'm driving.

>
>Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
>the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
>the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
>came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
>unlikely.



Is a junkyard part worth doing or is the labor most of the cost?
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Old 04 Jun 2008, 01:09 am
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"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:llaa44tqefjau4atrjq32kbfarav5h0f7m@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:53:23 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
>>the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
>>the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
>>came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
>>unlikely.

>
>
> Is a junkyard part worth doing or is the labor most of the cost?


Negative. Junkyard parts in this case are simply not worth it. Check with
your local dealer and the local parts stores, such as NAPA, AutoZone, etc.,
check the price and the guarantee. NAPA was offering lifetime warranty on
the cv boots. Don't know if that still applies. Cost is about 50-50 parts
and labor. Figure around 75-100(USD) for each a total of 150-200...

DaveD


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Old 04 Jun 2008, 07:39 am
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:09:56 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
<dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:

>
>"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:llaa44tqefjau4atrjq32kbfarav5h0f7m@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:53:23 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
>> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
>>>the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
>>>the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
>>>came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
>>>unlikely.

>>
>>
>> Is a junkyard part worth doing or is the labor most of the cost?

>
>Negative. Junkyard parts in this case are simply not worth it. Check with
>your local dealer and the local parts stores, such as NAPA, AutoZone, etc.,
>check the price and the guarantee. NAPA was offering lifetime warranty on
>the cv boots. Don't know if that still applies. Cost is about 50-50 parts
>and labor. Figure around 75-100(USD) for each a total of 150-200...
>
>DaveD
>


Hmm. Lifetime warranty on a 91 Accord? Oh well, it still needs to be
done.
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Old 04 Jun 2008, 09:05 am
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dgk wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:09:56 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>
>> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:llaa44tqefjau4atrjq32kbfarav5h0f7m@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:53:23 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
>>> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
>>>> the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
>>>> the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
>>>> came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
>>>> unlikely.
>>>
>>> Is a junkyard part worth doing or is the labor most of the cost?

>> Negative. Junkyard parts in this case are simply not worth it. Check with
>> your local dealer and the local parts stores, such as NAPA, AutoZone, etc.,
>> check the price and the guarantee. NAPA was offering lifetime warranty on
>> the cv boots. Don't know if that still applies. Cost is about 50-50 parts
>> and labor. Figure around 75-100(USD) for each a total of 150-200...
>>
>> DaveD
>>

>
> Hmm. Lifetime warranty on a 91 Accord? Oh well, it still needs to be
> done.



not /your/ lifetime, the "lifetime" of the axle. it doesn't mean much
because legally, it's warranteed until it breaks. think about that!
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Old 05 Jun 2008, 08:00 am
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Default Re: Struts on 91 Accord, and right axle?

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:05:14 -0700, jim beam
<spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>dgk wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:09:56 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
>> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:llaa44tqefjau4atrjq32kbfarav5h0f7m@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:53:23 -0800, "Dave and Trudy"
>>>> <dtdodson@acsalaska.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Regardless of what you call them, axles, cv shafts, propellor shafts etc.,
>>>>> the clicking noise is coming from the cv joint. The axle will stop turning
>>>>> the wheel when the cv joint fails. I guess it could fall out if the joint
>>>>> came completely apart and separated into two parts. Possible but highly
>>>>> unlikely.
>>>>
>>>> Is a junkyard part worth doing or is the labor most of the cost?
>>> Negative. Junkyard parts in this case are simply not worth it. Check with
>>> your local dealer and the local parts stores, such as NAPA, AutoZone, etc.,
>>> check the price and the guarantee. NAPA was offering lifetime warranty on
>>> the cv boots. Don't know if that still applies. Cost is about 50-50 parts
>>> and labor. Figure around 75-100(USD) for each a total of 150-200...
>>>
>>> DaveD
>>>

>>
>> Hmm. Lifetime warranty on a 91 Accord? Oh well, it still needs to be
>> done.

>
>
>not /your/ lifetime, the "lifetime" of the axle. it doesn't mean much
>because legally, it's warranteed until it breaks. think about that!



So let me get this all straight. I need to replace the axle because
the CV joint will fail and the wheel will stop turning? That really
does seem like something to be avoided.

The lifetime warranty, at least until the axle breaks, is definitely
rewarding.
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