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Old 15 May 2008, 10:11 pm
Tony Hwang
 
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Default OT; Nitrogen filled tires

Hi,
Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?
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Old 15 May 2008, 10:24 pm
jim beam
 
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Tony Hwang wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?


not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
first place?
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Old 15 May 2008, 10:39 pm
Tony Hwang
 
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jim beam wrote:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?

>
>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?


Hi,
Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).

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Old 15 May 2008, 10:59 pm
jim beam
 
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Tony Hwang wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?

>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?

>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>


just do it yourself and fill at the next gas station.

there's a small advantage to nitrogen related to partial pressures, but
that only works on initial fill. after that, you may as well just
maintain pressure with free/cheaper air. you'll certainly never know
any difference driving around.

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Old 15 May 2008, 11:12 pm
mjc13
 
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Tony Hwang wrote:

> jim beam wrote:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?

>>
>>
>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?

>
>
> Hi,
> Wife had new tires put on at Costco and they only use nitrogen.
> When I took the car to a lube joint for oil change they are not gonna
> bother with tire pressure check because of nitrogen(green valve cap).
>


Since air is mostly nitrogen anyway, you will just end up with less
nitrogen in the mix, which was probably not 100% nitrogen to begin with,
because the tires would have had some air in them before inflation.
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Old 16 May 2008, 06:11 am
Tegger
 
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jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?

>
> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in the
> first place?




Indeed.

Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?



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Old 16 May 2008, 07:03 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: OT; Nitrogen filled tires

In article <GX6Xj.141098$Cj7.136462@pd7urf2no>,
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
> tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?


Google "atmosphere composition"

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Old 16 May 2008, 07:24 am
Jim Yanik
 
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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:

> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?


it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.

>>
>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>> the first place?

>
> Indeed.
>
> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?



less O2 for the tires to absorb?
(internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)

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jyanik
at
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Old 16 May 2008, 07:50 am
jim beam
 
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Jim Yanik wrote:
> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns9AA047F72250Ategger@207.14.116.130:
>
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:Y8ydnWXKhoDKY7HVnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn
>>>> filled tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?

>
> it wastes the oney you spent to get a nitrogen fill.


that's why you shouldn't waste your money in the first place!


>
>>> not a problem. the question is, why did you bother with nitrogen in
>>> the first place?

>> Indeed.
>>
>> Of what advantage is 85% nitrogen over the 78% in regular air?

>
>
> less O2 for the tires to absorb?
> (internal pressure forcing more absorbtion that outside air.)
>


tires "absorb" [diffuse] oxygen from atmosphere anyway. if the tire is
100% nitrogen, oxygen will still diffuse in - partial pressures.

the only technical advantage to nitrogen is on the extreme performance
end of the spectrum where you may want to minimize oxygen for fire
protection, or water vapor [always present in air] for icing. like
aerospace.
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Old 17 May 2008, 10:43 am
JXStern
 
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:34 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

>Just wondered what if topping up with ordinary air to a nitrogn filled
>tires. What would happen? Good, bad or any harm?


if you allow any of the nitrogen to escape, thousands could be killed.

/sarc



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