Honda Car Forum

On Mon, 19 May 2008 19:57:35 -0700, jim beam wrote:

>> Since you keep changing the focus of the 'discussion', then I help you
>> keep up with that. We went from oil changes to brake fluid changes, to
>> crashing a Corolla because some idiot crossed in front of me in a
>> torrential downpour.
>>
>> I don't want you getting lost, after all...
>>
>>
> what part of "you were driving too fast" didn't you understand from last
> time? the more you reveal of the facts, like road conditions, the more
> clear it becomes that you're reckless and stupid.


And the more you respond, the more clear it becomes you're an asshole.

The speed limit was 45 MPH. I was driving 35 MPH and the rain was letting
up. I was also keeping with the flow of traffic.

So now what, smart ass?

"Bruce L. Bergman" <blnospambergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:57:15 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>>> hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:08:51 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. how often do you change your engine coolant?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. how often do you change your brake fluid?
>>>>
>>>> LOL! I'm pobably baiting myself here, but I'll bite:
>>>>
>>>> I change the coolant when it needs it. When it stops looking 'green'
>>>> enough. One car I ran 120,000 miles before changing it, and didn't
>>>> change
>>>> it again after that. I traded it at 244,000 and saw it around 4 more
>>>> years after that.
>>>>
>>>> The car that replaced it had a coolant change at 150,000 miles, That
>>>> one
>>>> currently has 259,000 and is sitting in my back yard.
>>>>
>>>> Brake fluid gets changed the moment I notice a difference in pedal
>>>> pressure. If I start to lose 'modulation' I check the fluid and chenge
>>>> it. This usually happens around 150,000 or so when the fluid is dark
>>>> brown, but not black. The place I used to have do my brakes would bleed
>>>> or flush accordingly, and brakes last me ~60,000 miles.
>>>
>>> <snip irrelevance>
>>>
>>> so not only do you disregard the owners manual with too frequent oil
>>> changes, you disregard it with too infrequent coolant or brake fluid
>>> changes. the latter being a material factor in vehicle safety.
>>>
>>
>>Toyota does not have a recommended brake fluid change.
>
> Yes, but they should. Brake fluid is hygroscopic and will absorb
> moisture out of the air over time, and you still want to deep bleed
> the brakes with fresh fluid to effectively change it occasionally.
>
> Though I would never stretch it to 150K, do it every time the
> calipers are rebuilt or other major brake work is done to the car, in
> the 30K to 60K range.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>

I agree that there should be a replacement for brake fluid. My
recommendation is to replace it every other brake job.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 19:57:35 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
>>> Since you keep changing the focus of the 'discussion', then I help you
>>> keep up with that. We went from oil changes to brake fluid changes, to
>>> crashing a Corolla because some idiot crossed in front of me in a
>>> torrential downpour.
>>>
>>> I don't want you getting lost, after all...
>>>
>>>
>> what part of "you were driving too fast" didn't you understand from last
>> time? the more you reveal of the facts, like road conditions, the more
>> clear it becomes that you're reckless and stupid.
>
>
> And the more you respond, the more clear it becomes you're an asshole.

and the more clear it becomes that you haven't figured how much i don't
care!


>
> The speed limit was 45 MPH. I was driving 35 MPH and the rain was letting
> up. I was also keeping with the flow of traffic.
>
> So now what, smart ass?
>

as any cop will tell you, you have to adjust your speed for the
conditions. if a posted speed limit is 65 and it's raining so you can't
see 10 yards, you're being reckless and stupid to drive much more than
walking pace. and you can get a ticket for speeding! just because some
jackass ahead of you is driving too fast, doesn't mean you have to!

On Mon, 19 May 2008 21:29:48 -0700, jim beam wrote:

>
>> The speed limit was 45 MPH. I was driving 35 MPH and the rain was
>> letting up. I was also keeping with the flow of traffic.
>>
>> So now what, smart ass?
>>
>>
> as any cop will tell you, you have to adjust your speed for the
> conditions. if a posted speed limit is 65 and it's raining so you can't
> see 10 yards, you're being reckless and stupid to drive much more than
> walking pace. and you can get a ticket for speeding! just because some
> jackass ahead of you is driving too fast, doesn't mean you have to!


And the jackass beside me and the jackass behind me?

You sure you don't drive a Prius at 25 MPH everywhere you go?

Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2008 21:29:48 -0700, jim beam wrote:
>
>>> The speed limit was 45 MPH. I was driving 35 MPH and the rain was
>>> letting up. I was also keeping with the flow of traffic.
>>>
>>> So now what, smart ass?
>>>
>>>
>> as any cop will tell you, you have to adjust your speed for the
>> conditions. if a posted speed limit is 65 and it's raining so you can't
>> see 10 yards, you're being reckless and stupid to drive much more than
>> walking pace. and you can get a ticket for speeding! just because some
>> jackass ahead of you is driving too fast, doesn't mean you have to!
>
>
> And the jackass beside me and the jackass behind me?

baaaa. the bleating of sheep.


>
> You sure you don't drive a Prius at 25 MPH everywhere you go?

strawman.

Polfus wrote:
>
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
>
>> Don't pay much attention to beam. Planes ain't cars. Apples 'n
>> oranges for sure.
>>
>> While he does dispense some good info on occasion, most of his posts
>> reflect a narrow personal view that is out of touch with the average
>> motorist. He has also adopted the false mantra of dealer service while
>> ignoring its main function, generation of revenue.
>>
>> Just pour a cool one and enjoy the afternoon...
>>
>> JT
>
>
> Amen ( raises glass of shiraz to make a toast to you ).
>
> Peace,
> Polfus



My poison is Pinch... On the rocks please!

<G>

JT

On Mon, 19 May 2008 21:40:04 -0700, jim beam wrote:


>>> as any cop will tell you, you have to adjust your speed for the
>>> conditions. if a posted speed limit is 65 and it's raining so you
>>> can't see 10 yards, you're being reckless and stupid to drive much
>>> more than walking pace. and you can get a ticket for speeding! just
>>> because some jackass ahead of you is driving too fast, doesn't mean
>>> you have to!
>>
>>
>> And the jackass beside me and the jackass behind me?
>
> baaaa. the bleating of sheep.
>
>
>
>> You sure you don't drive a Prius at 25 MPH everywhere you go?
>
> strawman.

And you're trying to extrapolate a situation from details you don't fully
understand.

Of course, if I were a Super driver like you, I could have popped the
front wheels in the air and climbed over the car like Bigfoot with a
Corolla 1200.

Too bad we aren't all gifted with skills like yours. At least we change
our oil no later than MFG's reccomendations.

Ray O wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:57:15 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
> I agree that there should be a replacement for brake fluid. My
> recommendation is to replace it every other brake job.

What constitutes a "brake job" and how often are doing one?
<serious question, BTW>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:49:43 -0400, Tony Harding wrote:

> Ray O wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:57:15 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> I agree that there should be a replacement for brake fluid. My
>> recommendation is to replace it every other brake job.
>
> What constitutes a "brake job" and how often are doing one?
> <serious question, BTW>

Hmmm...since I've had a string of beaters in the past 10 years, I usually
remove the wheels after I 'acquire' the car and have a look at the pads,
rotors and calipers. If I see the pads are below 50% I replace them, if
the rotors are gouged I replaced them, and if the calipers are in rough
shape I check them for leaks or sticking.

After that, I check them when I change tires from summer to winter and
vice versa, looking for pad and rotor wear.

Other than that I let my ears tell me what to do. Pads have 'wear
indicators' either in them or on them that make a squealing sound when
they need replacing, generally 25-40,000 miles depending on how hard you
are on your brakes. I've gone 60,000 before, but then you're looking at
replacing the rotors for sure. Usually a check at 25-30,000 miles is a
good rule; if the pads are ~50% I let them go till they start squealing.

I did pads and rotors on the front of the Supra in 2005, and drive the car
about 10,000 miles a year, so it's time to look. They seem good, but I'll
pull the wheels and have a look.

Depending on the car, pads are $12-35, rotors are $18 and up. I bought a
set of rotors for an '83 Tercel wagon for $6 each!!!

What's the car, are there any symptoms?

"Tony Harding" <ToHarding@UniversalExports.org> wrote in message
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> Ray O wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:57:15 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>> I agree that there should be a replacement for brake fluid. My
>> recommendation is to replace it every other brake job.
>
> What constitutes a "brake job" and how often are doing one?
> <serious question, BTW>

I consider a "brake job" to be replacement of brake linings (pads and/or
shoes) and any work associated with the lining replacement, like machining
or replacing rotors or drums, servicing or replacement of calipers and/or
wheel cylinders, brake hoses, etc.

Depending on driving conditions and driving style, front brake last anywhere
from 20,000 to 60,000 miles, with 40,000 to 45,000 miles being typical life.
Rear disc brake pads last roughly twice as long. Rear drum brakes often
last more than twice as long because they are often not adjusted properly,
with the payoff being more frequent front brake pad replacement because they
are doing more of the work to stop the vehicle.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)