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Thanks Jim for the information. I will get that coolant checked and CTS
sensor ad air bled out of the system.


"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
> news:481bb3d8$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come along
>> with a harsh downshift to first
>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>> off at cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."
>>
>> I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just replace
>> Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics there. He
>> told me that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is this really
>> true?
>>
>> All your advic is appreciated greatly.
>>
>> Thanks
>><bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
>> news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.
>> ..
>>> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car
>>>> starting shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on
>>>> the phone, they told me that in that year model it would be most
>>>> likely Torque Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it
>>>> would roughly cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem
>>>> with their accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share
>>>> how much it cost to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks So much
>>>
>>> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission
>>> mounts. Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain
>>> and refill if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should
>>> use Honda Z1 ATF.
>>>
>>> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to first
>>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>>> off at cruising speed)
>>> then the torque converter is defective.
>
> AFAIK,there's NO electronics in a torque converter;it's all in the
> planetary gear shift solenoids.
> fluid torque converters are just single stage hydraulic turbines.
>
>
> you need to get that coolant level you mentioned in another post brought
> up
> to proper levels and air bled out from the system;the coolant temp
> sensor(CTS) needs to be fully immersed or it gives wrong temp readings to
> the ECU.
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

"Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:481c5f2b$0$4074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Thanks Jim for the information. I will get that coolant checked and
> CTS sensor ad air bled out of the system.
>
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A92EF0D943ACjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>> "Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:481bb3d8$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come
>>> along with a harsh downshift to first
>>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>>> off at cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."
>>>
>>> I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just
>>> replace Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics
>>> there. He told me that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is
>>> this really true?
>>>
>>> All your advic is appreciated greatly.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>><bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
>>> news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.co
>>> m. ..
>>>> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car
>>>>> starting shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on
>>>>> the phone, they told me that in that year model it would be most
>>>>> likely Torque Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it
>>>>> would roughly cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem
>>>>> with their accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share
>>>>> how much it cost to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks So much
>>>>
>>>> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission
>>>> mounts. Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain
>>>> and refill if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should
>>>> use Honda Z1 ATF.
>>>>
>>>> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to
>>>> first gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling
>>>> (on and off at cruising speed)
>>>> then the torque converter is defective.
>>
>> AFAIK,there's NO electronics in a torque converter;it's all in the
>> planetary gear shift solenoids.
>> fluid torque converters are just single stage hydraulic turbines.
>>
>>
>> you need to get that coolant level you mentioned in another post
>> brought up
>> to proper levels and air bled out from the system;the coolant temp
>> sensor(CTS) needs to be fully immersed or it gives wrong temp
>> readings to the ECU.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>
>

I would also change the tranny fluid using Honda AT fluid.
it would be a bummer to spend a lot of money on repairs when it was just
some old,dirty ATF causing your problems.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Sam wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much
>
>

let me guess - either this is a v6 [you don't say] and you have a
problem with the great honda transmission recall, or you had the
transmission "flushed" by a non-honda service shop, and they used
non-honda transmission fluid...

if the latter, drain and fill 3 times, driving for a week between each
time, with genuine honda z1 atf. the transmission will magically behave
like new again.

Jim,
It is 4 Cylinder Automatic, I never changed the Tranny fluids. I guess its
time now. Someone mentioned to also add the SEAFOAM additive. Is that
recommended?

Thanks

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Sam wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
>> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
>> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
>> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
>> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
>> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks So much
>
> let me guess - either this is a v6 [you don't say] and you have a problem
> with the great honda transmission recall, or you had the transmission
> "flushed" by a non-honda service shop, and they used non-honda
> transmission fluid...
>
> if the latter, drain and fill 3 times, driving for a week between each
> time, with genuine honda z1 atf. the transmission will magically behave
> like new again.