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There is a lot of talk about BMW, VW and American sedans. Has
anyone ever considered the Nissan Maxima or the Toyota Camry? These
two sedans fully loaded and optioned down are cheaper, faster, more
reliable, better handling and more comfortable and practical than your
typical VW, BMW, or Brand X American sedan.

You could buy a fully loaded Camry and have a pile of money left over
to spend. You would also have a lot more room than your typical VW or
BMW. The German sedans just do not have any room in them for larger
people. Fitting 4 or 5 people in them would be a stretch of the
imagination.

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Yes, you are completely correct.
If you have enough money to but a BMW or a Benz what does it matter?
At that level of income money have no meaning.
It's just an object
Plus some people may want to look like they are "rich." Yota and Nissan nor
Honda give off that Image.
Just some food for thought.

Omphalos <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote in message news:<AgiNa.17418$ic1.317121@twister.tampabay.rr.c om>...
> There is a lot of talk about BMW, VW and American sedans. Has
> anyone ever considered the Nissan Maxima or the Toyota Camry? These
> two sedans fully loaded and optioned down are cheaper, faster, more
> reliable, better handling

Ha ha ha

"Ricardo" <sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca> wrote in message >
> Hard to beat a Bimmer for space and comfort, when you've been
> accustomed to cramped U.S. and Japanese cars all your life. Although
> Volvos are pretty good too, 'cos I don't even need the driver's seat
> all the way back on a V40, which is very rare.
>

What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than the 7
series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . . especially if you
compare them with the average Jap sedan costing many thousands of dollars
less. -Dave

"Dave C." wrote:

> "Ricardo" <sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca> wrote in message >
> > Hard to beat a Bimmer for space and comfort, when you've been
> > accustomed to cramped U.S. and Japanese cars all your life. Although
> > Volvos are pretty good too, 'cos I don't even need the driver's seat
> > all the way back on a V40, which is very rare.
> >
>
> What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than the 7
> series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . . especially if you
> compare them with the average Jap sedan costing many thousands of dollars
> less. -Dave

actually a bimmer 3 series is smaller then a accord
but a vw passat is roomier then most jap sedans, but its far from reliable

marcel

I disagree on VW... I own a 2002 Passat V6 and it is great. Larger than my
wife's 2000 Altima (even larger than the newer 2002+ Altima's.) The quality
and finish is 100 times better than the Nissan's and Honda's I've seen. The
V6 has alright HP, better ride quality, VERY comfortable, and can easily
seat 5 people. Being 6'1, there is alright head/leg room (not the best...)
Reliability is a question (had a 1996 Passat that started leaking oil) and
servicing is costly. The Jetta, on the other hand, I WOULD NOT touch...

"Omphalos" <omphalos@xmsg.com> wrote in message
news:AgiNa.17418$ic1.317121@twister.tampabay.rr.co m...
> There is a lot of talk about BMW, VW and American sedans. Has
> anyone ever considered the Nissan Maxima or the Toyota Camry? These
> two sedans fully loaded and optioned down are cheaper, faster, more
> reliable, better handling and more comfortable and practical than your
> typical VW, BMW, or Brand X American sedan.
>
> You could buy a fully loaded Camry and have a pile of money left over
> to spend. You would also have a lot more room than your typical VW or
> BMW. The German sedans just do not have any room in them for larger
> people. Fitting 4 or 5 people in them would be a stretch of the
> imagination.
>
> --
> __________
> ==\ /================================
> ===\ /==You know how dumb the average==
> ====\ /===guy is? Well half of everyone==
> =====\ /======is even dumber than that=====
> ======\/====================================
>
> http://31337.pl

Dave C. wrote:
> "Ricardo" <sovietjamaicanguy@spamfreezone.yahoo.ca> wrote in message >
>> Hard to beat a Bimmer for space and comfort, when you've been
>> accustomed to cramped U.S. and Japanese cars all your life. Although
>> Volvos are pretty good too, 'cos I don't even need the driver's seat
>> all the way back on a V40, which is very rare.
>>
>
> What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than the 7
> series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . . especially if you
> compare them with the average Jap sedan costing many thousands of
> dollars less. -Dave

I agree with you, Dave. The 3 series have since the mid '80's been for
unusually short waisted people and the 5 series only marginally better.
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*Philip

"Children left running and unattended
will be towed at owner's expense"

How about a Jetta TDI?
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*Philip

"Children left running and unattended
will be towed at owner's expense"

>Martin wrote:
> I disagree on VW... I own a 2002 Passat V6 and it is great. Larger
> than my wife's 2000 Altima (even larger than the newer 2002+
> Altima's.) The quality and finish is 100 times better than the
> Nissan's and Honda's I've seen. The V6 has alright HP, better ride
> quality, VERY comfortable, and can easily seat 5 people. Being 6'1,
> there is alright head/leg room (not the best...) Reliability is a
> question (had a 1996 Passat that started leaking oil) and servicing
> is costly. The Jetta, on the other hand, I WOULD NOT touch...
>

Ricardo wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 01:28:25 GMT, "Philip®"
> <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than the 7
> >> series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . . especially if you
> >> compare them with the average Jap sedan costing many thousands of
> >> dollars less. -Dave
> >
> >I agree with you, Dave. The 3 series have since the mid '80's been for
> >unusually short waisted people and the 5 series only marginally better.
>
> The Bimmers I was referring to were an '84 318i, an '84 533i(?) and
> an '81 733i. Plenty of room in all three, at least up front.

I had an '86 535i, and I thought the f'ing thing was HUGE. 5 people
could fit in it very comfortably. Certainly no space issues up front,
only thing that was tight was hip room with 3-up in the back.

nate

Ricardo wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 01:28:25 GMT, "Philip®"
> <chipstate@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>> What are you talking about? I've ridden in Bimmers. Other than
>>> the 7 series perhaps, they are microscopically tiny . . .
>>> especially if you compare them with the average Jap sedan costing
>>> many thousands of dollars less. -Dave
>>
>> I agree with you, Dave. The 3 series have since the mid '80's been
>> for unusually short waisted people and the 5 series only marginally
>> better.
>
> The Bimmers I was referring to were an '84 318i, an '84 533i(?) and
> an '81 733i. Plenty of room in all three, at least up front.

NOT in 3 series, that is for sure. 7's were decent but then you're
talking about a barge anyway.
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*Philip

"Children left running and unattended
will be towed at owner's expense"