Honda Car Forum

Yes. you should. If not for yourself, for the other guy/gal who buys
the car from you. You can ask more for it (at least enough to cover
all those Mobil 1 oil changes!) since it's had Mobil 1 in it for those
2 years...explain why that is a big positive factor if the buyer is
ignorant.

As for your car that was wrecked, you could sell the engine for more,
too, for the same reason.

I plan on keeping my car indefinitely so Mobil 1 is in the engine and
AT. But even if I don't keep it, someone else would benefit from that
care.

Good luck,

John D.




"noway" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<kzOKa.329141$3n5.297076@news2.central.cox.ne t>...
> Well then there is always the case that I have.
>
> I ran Mobil 1 in my last car, took real nice care of it, and some jerk
> smashed me in the back end and totaled it. Now I have a 2003 Civic EX Coupe.
> Wondering if its worth spending the extra on synthetic, especially since I
> don't know if I'll keep the car more than a year or 2, cause I don't really
> like it that much.
>
> "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:bat57d$3ado5$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > The original question was on the viability of synthetic vs
> petroleum
> > based oils. This is a Honda newsgroup, so airplane analogies are
> > irrelevant. Synthetics do not generate petroleum sludges and varnish
> (from
> > oil breakdown under heat) because they are not petroleum products, retain
> > their viscosity under pressure, heat & cold .. . and are superior for
> these
> > reasons in automotive applications. What do you not understand?
> >
> > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:vX9Aa.38035$cK1.13361@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > news:bar6n2$2eote$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > Automotive engines are not uniformly cooled. That's the
> problem.
> > > > Hot spots occur wherever there is insufficient cooling and/or
> lubrication.
> > >
> > > Uh-huh.
> > > Varying loads, too, like in, oh I dunno...an automobile engine.
> > >
> > > > Lubrication is really a response to insufficient cooling (which
> airplane
> > > > piston engines have aplenty).
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > > >Example of the difference is between airplane
> > > > aircooled and VW aircooled .. . which usually required straight 30w
> oils.
> > >
> > > And are run under vastly different loadings than automobile engines.
> > >
> > > > Sludge and varnish occur wherever overheated/insufficiently cooled
> parts
> are
> > > > lubricated.
> > >
> > > Oh.
> > > Gee, the other UG* figures it's the piston blowby.
> > >
> > > >The type of lubrication determines the amount of
> > > > varnish/sludge.
> > >
> > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > *Usenet Genius
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Ok7Aa.36953$cK1.13764@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3ED0FEC8.71E79160@hotmail.com...
> > > > > > Cars don't have the large temperature variations that make
> > > > > > synthetic important. You are thinking of temperatures in
> > > > > > terms of human skin. Auto lubricants have mild temperature
> > > > > > ranges which conventional oils are most than sufficient for.
> > > > >
> > > > > My engines run from -31C to over 35C.
> > > > >
> > > > > > The problem is dirt that gets into the oil. It is why
> > > > > > airplane oil comes out so clean and why car oil comes out so
> > > > > > black.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it.
> > > > > Most of the combustion gases in an IC engine go out the exhaust, but
> in
> a
> > > > > jet engine, they *all* do.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Problems such as sludge and varnish would be a problem IF we
> > > > > > did not have to change oils so frequently due to
> > > > > > contamination. That contamination is so great that piston
> > > > > > engines also required crankcase ventilation. That
> > > > > > contamination from around pistons is so great that the EPA
> > > > > > required it to be contained so as to not pollute - the PCV
> > > > > > valve requirement that was later mandated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep. And jet engines just piss it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Synthetic verses conventional oil is a story about oil
> > > > > > contamination. Sludge and varnish are but minor problems
> > > > > > because oil contamination requires such frequent oil changes -
> > > > > > even if using synthetic oil.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some analysis's, and some engine makers think differently.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you change your oil when it changes colour?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >

I have been using it on 93 accord it has 178K miles and still going strong
Ihad it tuned 50k ago and the mechanic was amazed at the condition of the
engine



"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0306270718.40e7bcc4@posting.google.c om...
> Yes. you should. If not for yourself, for the other guy/gal who buys
> the car from you. You can ask more for it (at least enough to cover
> all those Mobil 1 oil changes!) since it's had Mobil 1 in it for those
> 2 years...explain why that is a big positive factor if the buyer is
> ignorant.
>
> As for your car that was wrecked, you could sell the engine for more,
> too, for the same reason.
>
> I plan on keeping my car indefinitely so Mobil 1 is in the engine and
> AT. But even if I don't keep it, someone else would benefit from that
> care.
>
> Good luck,
>
> John D.
>
>
>
>
> "noway" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:<kzOKa.329141$3n5.297076@news2.central.cox.ne t>...
> > Well then there is always the case that I have.
> >
> > I ran Mobil 1 in my last car, took real nice care of it, and some jerk
> > smashed me in the back end and totaled it. Now I have a 2003 Civic EX
Coupe.
> > Wondering if its worth spending the extra on synthetic, especially since
I
> > don't know if I'll keep the car more than a year or 2, cause I don't
really
> > like it that much.
> >
> > "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > news:bat57d$3ado5$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > > The original question was on the viability of synthetic vs
> > petroleum
> > > based oils. This is a Honda newsgroup, so airplane analogies are
> > > irrelevant. Synthetics do not generate petroleum sludges and varnish
> > (from
> > > oil breakdown under heat) because they are not petroleum products,
retain
> > > their viscosity under pressure, heat & cold .. . and are superior for
> > these
> > > reasons in automotive applications. What do you not understand?
> > >
> > > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vX9Aa.38035$cK1.13361@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Bill Freeman" <bfree@netzero.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:bar6n2$2eote$1@ID-82447.news.dfncis.de...
> > > > > Automotive engines are not uniformly cooled. That's the
> > problem.
> > > > > Hot spots occur wherever there is insufficient cooling and/or
> > lubrication.
> > > >
> > > > Uh-huh.
> > > > Varying loads, too, like in, oh I dunno...an automobile engine.
> > > >
> > > > > Lubrication is really a response to insufficient cooling (which
> > airplane
> > > > > piston engines have aplenty).
> > > >
> > > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > > >
> > > > >Example of the difference is between airplane
> > > > > aircooled and VW aircooled .. . which usually required straight
30w
> > oils.
> > > >
> > > > And are run under vastly different loadings than automobile engines.
> > > >
> > > > > Sludge and varnish occur wherever overheated/insufficiently cooled
> > parts
> > are
> > > > > lubricated.
> > > >
> > > > Oh.
> > > > Gee, the other UG* figures it's the piston blowby.
> > > >
> > > > >The type of lubrication determines the amount of
> > > > > varnish/sludge.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that makes sense to you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > *Usenet Genius
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Ok7Aa.36953$cK1.13764@news01.bloor.is.net.cab le.rogers.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:3ED0FEC8.71E79160@hotmail.com...
> > > > > > > Cars don't have the large temperature variations that make
> > > > > > > synthetic important. You are thinking of temperatures in
> > > > > > > terms of human skin. Auto lubricants have mild temperature
> > > > > > > ranges which conventional oils are most than sufficient for.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My engines run from -31C to over 35C.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem is dirt that gets into the oil. It is why
> > > > > > > airplane oil comes out so clean and why car oil comes out so
> > > > > > > black.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it.
> > > > > > Most of the combustion gases in an IC engine go out the exhaust,
but
> > in
> > a
> > > > > > jet engine, they *all* do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Problems such as sludge and varnish would be a problem IF we
> > > > > > > did not have to change oils so frequently due to
> > > > > > > contamination. That contamination is so great that piston
> > > > > > > engines also required crankcase ventilation. That
> > > > > > > contamination from around pistons is so great that the EPA
> > > > > > > required it to be contained so as to not pollute - the PCV
> > > > > > > valve requirement that was later mandated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep. And jet engines just piss it out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Synthetic verses conventional oil is a story about oil
> > > > > > > contamination. Sludge and varnish are but minor problems
> > > > > > > because oil contamination requires such frequent oil changes -
> > > > > > > even if using synthetic oil.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some analysis's, and some engine makers think differently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you change your oil when it changes colour?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >