Honda Car Forum

Brian,

If it would only "invonvenience you a few moments" to check that a
timing chain with all it's associated parts was installed correctly --
or some other internal component -- then you are a better and faster
mechanic than I am!

Get real.

John D.





"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:<eXYJa.21093$PD3.75778@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
> "Dmitry" <grinvald@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e6d180a.0306240531.2b456b33@posting.google.co m...
> >
> > While this is a simple task, one should not be expected to check on
> > professional's job, even if it is always a good idea. I don't beleive
> > you would cut yourself to check if a surgery you just had was done
> > correctly
>
> You're blowing this way out of proportion. For those that feel they have a
> right to expect that the work they asked to be done correctly was done that
> way (and, I am not saying that we don't have that right), don't check that
> the work was done right. But, for those of us that know that people make
> mistakes, checking on the work only makes sense!
>
> In fact, I would rather 'inconvenience myself the few moments it takes to
> check that the work was completed properly than to be happily motoring down
> the highway and have the engine seize. Or perhaps, have a wheel fall off,
> because the technician got talking to another person and forgot to tighten
> the lug nuts on that wheel. And, don't say that doesn't happen, because I
> have seen it happen.
>
> You have to think about more than your time when you drive a vehicle, you
> have to think safety at every moment, both yours, your family's and everyone
> else's.

"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0306241045.333b4db0@posting.google.c om...
> Brian,
>
> If it would only "invonvenience you a few moments" to check that a
> timing chain with all it's associated parts was installed correctly --
> or some other internal component -- then you are a better and faster
> mechanic than I am!

Obviously.

"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0306241045.333b4db0@posting.google.c om...
> Brian,
>
> If it would only "invonvenience you a few moments" to check that a
> timing chain with all it's associated parts was installed correctly --
> or some other internal component -- then you are a better and faster
> mechanic than I am!
>
> Get real.
>
> John D.

I guess that I should have spelled it out in English for some of you that
don't seem to understand the implied. That, for those things that are easily
checked, it is far easier to do so, than it is to end up sitting on the side
of a road without a wheel, or with a seized engine. And while sitting there,
blaming everyone else for your problems.

Yes, there are things that can not be readily checked and for those items
there is warranty coverage. But, for the things that are easily checked and
you don't, why inconvenience yourself for any amount of time sitting in a
broken down vehicle on the side of the road, is more time than it would take
to do the smart thing and check your vehicle?

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0306242058.414190f3@posting.google.c om...
> You're still dreaming. And warranties...right.
>
> Blaming someone else for one's car problems? If they caused them, that
> seems appropriate!
>
> What planet do you live on? Oh...I noticed you're from Kanada...that
> figures, but still, I think you need to spell things out for yourself.
>
> Again, for the hearing impaired -- or those aliens living in Kanada --
> customers shouldn't be expected to check anything. If they WANT to,
> that's fine, but most people barely know where the gas goes in so in
> reality, they wouldn't even know what they were looking for...or at.
>
> You'd make a good BS PR man for a sleazy dealership...if you're not
> one already.
>
> John D.

Actually, I have been driving commercial motor vehicles for over three
decades, and that is where I have become used to checking for any signs of a
vehicle's condition. Because, with the operation of heavy vehicles, it IS
the driver's responsibility to ensure that it is safe to be used on the road
before taking it out of the yard. To do otherwise is to make yourself liable
for any and all damage that occurs to your vehicle or other's vehicles
and/or property. That is where I am coming from with my responses, because
of years of acting responsibly makes one that much aware of the
consequences.

Oh, and by the way, John. Canada is spelled with a C, not a K as in your
mind. Show some respect, please.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

Brian,

I didn't accidentally misspell Kanada...the K is there for a reason.
Do you know why or are you clueless. Clue: refer to the disgraceful
Left Coast (People's Republic of Kalifornia) here in America.

And obviously, there's no respect. I only respect the small minority
of Canadians who don't like what Canada has become.

But I'm not happy with America (which some people also spell with a
K), either, as it continues in its own downward spiral. Also here,
there is only a small minority in opposition to this negative trend.

You can have the last word, no sense going on with this.

Happy motoring,

John D.



"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:<n9eKa.21398$PD3.79214@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
> "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e821bab6.0306242058.414190f3@posting.google.c om...
> > You're still dreaming. And warranties...right.
> >
> > Blaming someone else for one's car problems? If they caused them, that
> > seems appropriate!
> >
> > What planet do you live on? Oh...I noticed you're from Kanada...that
> > figures, but still, I think you need to spell things out for yourself.
> >
> > Again, for the hearing impaired -- or those aliens living in Kanada --
> > customers shouldn't be expected to check anything. If they WANT to,
> > that's fine, but most people barely know where the gas goes in so in
> > reality, they wouldn't even know what they were looking for...or at.
> >
> > You'd make a good BS PR man for a sleazy dealership...if you're not
> > one already.
> >
> > John D.
>
> Actually, I have been driving commercial motor vehicles for over three
> decades, and that is where I have become used to checking for any signs of a
> vehicle's condition. Because, with the operation of heavy vehicles, it IS
> the driver's responsibility to ensure that it is safe to be used on the road
> before taking it out of the yard. To do otherwise is to make yourself liable
> for any and all damage that occurs to your vehicle or other's vehicles
> and/or property. That is where I am coming from with my responses, because
> of years of acting responsibly makes one that much aware of the
> consequences.
>
> Oh, and by the way, John. Canada is spelled with a C, not a K as in your
> mind. Show some respect, please.

If you're not happy with AmeriCa, I have a good solution ------

GET THE HELL OUT!


On 25 Jun 2003 08:34:29 -0700, jcdech@hotmail.com (John D.) wrote:

>Brian,
>
>I didn't accidentally misspell Kanada...the K is there for a reason.
>Do you know why or are you clueless. Clue: refer to the disgraceful
>Left Coast (People's Republic of Kalifornia) here in America.
>
>And obviously, there's no respect. I only respect the small minority
>of Canadians who don't like what Canada has become.
>
>But I'm not happy with America (which some people also spell with a
>K), either, as it continues in its own downward spiral. Also here,
>there is only a small minority in opposition to this negative trend.
>
>You can have the last word, no sense going on with this.
>
>Happy motoring,
>
>John D.
>
>
>
>"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:<n9eKa.21398$PD3.79214@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
>> "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e821bab6.0306242058.414190f3@posting.google.c om...
>> > You're still dreaming. And warranties...right.
>> >
>> > Blaming someone else for one's car problems? If they caused them, that
>> > seems appropriate!
>> >
>> > What planet do you live on? Oh...I noticed you're from Kanada...that
>> > figures, but still, I think you need to spell things out for yourself.
>> >
>> > Again, for the hearing impaired -- or those aliens living in Kanada --
>> > customers shouldn't be expected to check anything. If they WANT to,
>> > that's fine, but most people barely know where the gas goes in so in
>> > reality, they wouldn't even know what they were looking for...or at.
>> >
>> > You'd make a good BS PR man for a sleazy dealership...if you're not
>> > one already.
>> >
>> > John D.
>>
>> Actually, I have been driving commercial motor vehicles for over three
>> decades, and that is where I have become used to checking for any signs of a
>> vehicle's condition. Because, with the operation of heavy vehicles, it IS
>> the driver's responsibility to ensure that it is safe to be used on the road
>> before taking it out of the yard. To do otherwise is to make yourself liable
>> for any and all damage that occurs to your vehicle or other's vehicles
>> and/or property. That is where I am coming from with my responses, because
>> of years of acting responsibly makes one that much aware of the
>> consequences.
>>
>> Oh, and by the way, John. Canada is spelled with a C, not a K as in your
>> mind. Show some respect, please.

"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0306250734.6f7436e8@posting.google.c om...
> Brian,
>
> I didn't accidentally misspell Kanada...the K is there for a reason.
> Do you know why or are you clueless. Clue: refer to the disgraceful
> Left Coast (People's Republic of Kalifornia) here in America.
>
> And obviously, there's no respect. I only respect the small minority
> of Canadians who don't like what Canada has become.
>
> But I'm not happy with America (which some people also spell with a
> K), either, as it continues in its own downward spiral. Also here,
> there is only a small minority in opposition to this negative trend.
>
> You can have the last word, no sense going on with this.
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> John D.

You sir and your attitude, are prime examples why the United States are held
in such contempt around the world. You believe that everyone should know
everything about your corner of the planet, while ignoring the rest of the
world. You speak of a negative trend, you must mean the way that you think.

John D. wrote:
> Brian,
>
> I didn't accidentally misspell Kanada...the K is there for a reason.
> Do you know why or are you clueless. Clue: refer to the disgraceful
> Left Coast (People's Republic of Kalifornia) here in America.
>
> And obviously, there's no respect. I only respect the small minority
> of Canadians who don't like what Canada has become.
>
> But I'm not happy with America (which some people also spell with a
> K), either, as it continues in its own downward spiral.

Does this mean you opposed the "war" in Iraq and the rest of the Bush
agenda?

> Also here,
> there is only a small minority in opposition to this negative trend.
>
> You can have the last word, no sense going on with this.
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> John D.
>
> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message news:<n9eKa.21398$PD3.79214@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
>
>>"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:e821bab6.0306242058.414190f3@posting.google .com...
>>
>>>You're still dreaming. And warranties...right.
>>>
>>>Blaming someone else for one's car problems? If they caused them, that
>>>seems appropriate!
>>>
>>>What planet do you live on? Oh...I noticed you're from Kanada...that
>>>figures, but still, I think you need to spell things out for yourself.
>>>
>>>Again, for the hearing impaired -- or those aliens living in Kanada --
>>>customers shouldn't be expected to check anything. If they WANT to,
>>>that's fine, but most people barely know where the gas goes in so in
>>>reality, they wouldn't even know what they were looking for...or at.
>>>
>>>You'd make a good BS PR man for a sleazy dealership...if you're not
>>>one already.
>>>
>>>John D.
>>
>>Actually, I have been driving commercial motor vehicles for over three
>>decades, and that is where I have become used to checking for any signs of a
>>vehicle's condition. Because, with the operation of heavy vehicles, it IS
>>the driver's responsibility to ensure that it is safe to be used on the road
>>before taking it out of the yard. To do otherwise is to make yourself liable
>>for any and all damage that occurs to your vehicle or other's vehicles
>>and/or property. That is where I am coming from with my responses, because
>>of years of acting responsibly makes one that much aware of the
>>consequences.
>>
>>Oh, and by the way, John. Canada is spelled with a C, not a K as in your
>>mind. Show some respect, please.

Who's also a top posting pig.

"Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
news:3EFB5462.3000008@XXXX.optonline.net...
>
> Another load of crap from an Amerikan dummy. Customers don't *have* to
> check anything, but smart ones do. I took delivery of my 2003 Accord
> sedan yesterday and one of the first things I did, before even getting
> home, was check the oil level (which was fine, BTW).

It's nice to see that there are other people around with common sense <g>.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

Brian Smith wrote:
> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3EFB5462.3000008@XXXX.optonline.net...
>
>>Another load of crap from an Amerikan dummy. Customers don't *have* to
>>check anything, but smart ones do. I took delivery of my 2003 Accord
>>sedan yesterday and one of the first things I did, before even getting
>>home, was check the oil level (which was fine, BTW).
>
> It's nice to see that there are other people around with common sense <g>.

Thanks, I didn't realize we were such an endangered species.