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Old 21 Jan 2008, 08:22 pm
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Default Service schedule for 2007 Accord

OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.

I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
"minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

Thanks.

J.

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Old 21 Jan 2008, 08:41 pm
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JXStern wrote:
> OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
> on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
> maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
> just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.
>
> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?


Actually, it is exactly true. You don't need to do any tune-ups for
100,000 mi. In the old days, you needed to change the plugs, the wires,
the rotor, the cap, etc. Now, you don't need to do any of this for
100,000 mi.

They said "no tune-ups" not no maintenance.

Nothing inaccurate or misleading in what they said.

> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".


Go for the oil change only. You should be able to find to find
instructions on resetting the maintenance light in your owner's manual.

Get the list of everything they check with the "minor service" and learn
to check them yourself.

Jeff


> Thanks.
>
> J.
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Old 21 Jan 2008, 08:41 pm
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JXStern wrote:
> OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
> on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
> maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
> just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.



Unless you bought the vehicle used and somebody kept the manuals, I
suspect your answer is in the glove box. I received two items relative
to the maintenance schedule with my 2006. The more comprehensive one is
in the owner's manual. While Honda could have changed this, common
sense argues against it.


> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?


Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.


> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".


To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
falling off the car<g>
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Old 21 Jan 2008, 08:58 pm
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
>> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
>> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

>
>Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.


Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.


>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

>
>To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>falling off the car<g>


Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
city.

I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.

J.

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Old 21 Jan 2008, 09:07 pm
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JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:
>
>>> I thought one of the sales points on these beasts was "no tuneups for
>>> 100,000 miles", but that was never exactly true, I mean, you still
>>> need oil changes, filter changes, brakes, tires, and ... what else?

>> Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>> that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.

>
> Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
> maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
> sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
> find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
> dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.


A "deal." 5 cases of Pepsi (12 cans) for $11 is a deal. What they're
selling sounds like a "steal."

>>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

>> To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>> information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>> filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>> falling off the car<g>

>
> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
> city.


And the cool thing is that you can shop around for other dealers or take
it to any shop or even do the work yourself.

Jeff

> I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
> maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.
>
> J.
>

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Old 21 Jan 2008, 09:44 pm
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:22:25 GMT, JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net>
wrote:

>OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
>on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
>maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
>just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.


I do not think anybody exactly answered your question. There is no
printed maintenance schedule for the 2006 and beyond Hondas. The
indicator on the odometer window will tell you exactly what you need
to do or have done. Oil changes every 6000 miles is about the same as
what mine is telling me. The last time the little wrench thingey lit
up, the maintenance minder said B 1 2. I was able to go to the manual
and see what B 1 2 called for. I did everything myself except the oil
change. I have those done simply because it is such a bother to
dispose of the used oil. Then I reset the minder following the
instructions in the manual.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer
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Old 21 Jan 2008, 10:01 pm
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JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:41:54 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:


>> Only a dreamer would take issue with that selling point by pointing out
>> that you still need oil changes, filters, brakes, etc.

>
> Well, it's not entirely clear. BMW now includes all standard
> maintenance for 100k. That's sort of kind of what Honda wants it to
> sound like. Of course it's not exactly true, for the Honda, but now I
> find they're not making clear what you should be doing - and the local
> dealer leverages that into selling this "minor service" deal.


Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>

I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"


>>> I'm at 12k miles, the "oil life 5%" message is showing (already
>>> changed once around 6k miles), so it's time for something, but is it
>>> just the oil change, or more? I know my local dealer now recommends
>>> "minor service" for $140, which consists mainly of oil, lube, checking
>>> everything, a quick courtesy wash, "and resetting maintenance light".

>> To save you the arduous task of re-reading your owner's manual for the
>> information, your maintenance schedule will call for oil change, oil
>> filter change, rotate tire and check for loose parts hanging down or
>> falling off the car<g>

>
> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
> city.


No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
price and competency level on the rest of it.


> I'll go check the glove box for a secondary book that might have a
> maintenance schedule, but I thought that used to be in the main book.



They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
manual, will need to be done.

2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
similar to what most of us are used to.

All the 2007 manuals are available at:


https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007


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Old 21 Jan 2008, 10:20 pm
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:44:39 -0600, Elliot Richmond
<xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:22:25 GMT, JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net>
>wrote:
>
>>OK, I looked at the owners manual, and while there are about ten pages
>>on how to operate the radio, there is no good ol' fashioned
>>maintenance schedule, that I can see. And the Honda site seems to
>>just refer you to your local dealer for advice, hah.

>
>I do not think anybody exactly answered your question. There is no
>printed maintenance schedule for the 2006 and beyond Hondas. The
>indicator on the odometer window will tell you exactly what you need
>to do or have done. Oil changes every 6000 miles is about the same as
>what mine is telling me. The last time the little wrench thingey lit
>up, the maintenance minder said B 1 2. I was able to go to the manual
>and see what B 1 2 called for. I did everything myself except the oil
>change. I have those done simply because it is such a bother to
>dispose of the used oil. Then I reset the minder following the
>instructions in the manual.


Well, thank you for a clear answer!

I saw the codes and all, but didn't realize that was meant to
completely replace any fixed schedule!

So, A-1 at 12,000 miles just means change the oil, not even the
filter, and rotate the wheels? Well, I may just splurge. I mean,
wouldn't you?


Actually, I think I had to reset the minder after my first oil change,
shop simply forgot to do it. I did check the oil and found it clean!

Harumph. Just as a test, I guess I'll call the dealer, tell them the
code and mileage, and ask for their recommendation. Heh. Like I
don't know already.

J.


>
>
>Elliot Richmond
>Itinerant astronomy teacher
>Freelance science writer


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Old 21 Jan 2008, 10:28 pm
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:01:45 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:

>Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
>too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
>the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
>when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>


That's me, basically, only I do wash the windshield without the spray.
I'm sure I did that, once.


>I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
>While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"


Just want to keep the warranty valid.


>> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
>> city.

>
>No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
>consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
>price and competency level on the rest of it.


Nearest shop (eg, dealer) seems generally competent, and honest, if
greedy. Rather less greedy than the Acura dealer, where I had to keep
fending off recommendations to clean the injectors, yada yada.


>They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
>you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
> Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
>mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
>due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
>manual, will need to be done.
>
>2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
>similar to what most of us are used to.
>
>All the 2007 manuals are available at:
>
>https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007


Thanks.

I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
that.

And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
"A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
Plus or minus splurging on the filter.

J.


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Old 21 Jan 2008, 10:40 pm
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JXStern wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:01:45 GMT, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com> wrote:
>
>> Look over the maintenance items. Minor service, IMO, is for the sheeple
>> too lazy to do anything, including reading the manual, other than pop
>> the gas tank cap and occasionally throw some washer fluid in the tank
>> when they can no longer see out the windshield.<g>

>
> That's me, basically, only I do wash the windshield without the spray.
> I'm sure I did that, once.
>
>
>> I can get my oil and filter changed and tires rotated for under $45.
>> While it's up on the rack I can do my own "walk around"

>
> Just want to keep the warranty valid.


Well, all you need to do is rotate the tires, change the oil, and
inspect the thing at the recommended intervals.

>
>>> Dealer wants about $80 for that last. I guess that's life in the big
>>> city.

>> No, it's called running a profitable business. You can be an informed
>> consumer or a sheeple. I do what I can and shop wisely for the best
>> price and competency level on the rest of it.

>
> Nearest shop (eg, dealer) seems generally competent, and honest, if
> greedy. Rather less greedy than the Acura dealer, where I had to keep
> fending off recommendations to clean the injectors, yada yada.
>
>
>> They are probably pretty much the same across the 2007 Honda's but if
>> you have an Accord, turn to page 191 of your owners manual and READ it.
>> Maintenance is tied in to the Maintenance Minder vs. specific
>> mileages. Depending upon the code which comes up when the oil change is
>> due, various maintenance functions, listed in this section of the
>> manual, will need to be done.
>>
>> 2006 also uses this but, as I recall, also has somewhat of a chart -
>> similar to what most of us are used to.
>>
>> All the 2007 manuals are available at:
>>
>> https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/....ASP?YEAR=2007

>
> Thanks.
>
> I guess the news to me is that they are entirely *serious* about this
> minder deal, I though it was just a widget to tell you when to change
> the oil, based on hours, RPMs, and cold starts - or something like
> that.
>
> And now the trick is to see if the dealer will honor it without a lot
> of noise. They send out these coupon books, and nowhere does it offer
> "A-1 service for $50", which is about what it looks like it oughta be.
> Plus or minus splurging on the filter.


You say, "the dealer." Is there another dealer near where you live?

If not, is there a gas station or garage that can change the oil, rotate
the tires and reset the indicator light?

If the answer is "yes" to either question, then I would go elsewhere
than the dealer you have been going to.

Jeff

> J.
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