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Old 29 Dec 2007, 09:14 pm
NoMore MrNiceGuy
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Default 2002 Accord key question

I have just acquired this vehicle. It requires one of those chip keys
to start. I really hate those keys for several reasons. Is there any
way to disable that function or otherwise avoid having to use those
high-dollar keys?

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Old 30 Dec 2007, 12:28 am
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NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote:
> I have just acquired this vehicle. It requires one of those chip keys
> to start. I really hate those keys for several reasons. Is there any
> way to disable that function or otherwise avoid having to use those
> high-dollar keys?
>

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Yes. Tape the chipped key to the plastic part of the steering column and
then you can use cheap $2 copies all you want. It lowers your 'security'
a bit.

'Curly'
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Old 30 Dec 2007, 07:43 am
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motsco_ wrote:
>NoMore MrNiceGuy wrote:
>> I have just acquired this vehicle. It requires one of those chip keys
>> to start. I really hate those keys for several reasons. Is there any
>> way to disable that function or otherwise avoid having to use those
>> high-dollar keys?

>
>-------------------------
>
>Yes. Tape the chipped key to the plastic part of the steering column and
>then you can use cheap $2 copies all you want. It lowers your 'security'
>a bit.
>
>'Curly'


Funny if not practical

Then it must be possible to "mount" just the chip somewhere near the ignition
for the same effect. I was hoping to just be able to change the ignition
safety programming on the car. Can that be done? Surely there is a chip
somewhere inside the car that can be reprogramed. Something like the BIOS
chip in a computer.

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Old 30 Dec 2007, 08:51 am
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Default Re: 2002 Accord key question

In article <7d75bbe9e076d@uwe>, "Penthor via CarKB.com" <u40257@uwe>
wrote:

> >Yes. Tape the chipped key to the plastic part of the steering column and
> >then you can use cheap $2 copies all you want. It lowers your 'security'
> >a bit.
> >
> >'Curly'

>
> Funny if not practical


Not funny at all, and very practical. In fact, it's the only way to use
a key that doesn't have the chip in it.

In other words, the chip is a required part of the system. No chip, no
start.

Remote start applications, the third party ones, have you include a key
or key head that you tape inside the steering column. Otherwise, the
remote start won't start.

> I was hoping to just be able to change the ignition
> safety programming on the car. Can that be done? Surely there is a chip
> somewhere inside the car that can be reprogramed. Something like the BIOS
> chip in a computer.


Nope.

What's the difference between taping a chipped key head inside the
steering column somewhere, vs. disabling it via software? The end
result is exactly the same: you can use any key as long as it's cut for
the ignition switch, and you get lower security.

So why not tape a key head in there and be done with it?

People want to go the long and complicated route when the simple way is
staring them in the face...

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Old 30 Dec 2007, 08:56 am
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-97325C.08510230122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
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> People want to go the long and complicated route when the simple way is
> staring them in the face...


The simple method to use, is to simply use the key as provided and have
the security it was designed to provide. Anything short of doing that can
lead to the loss of your vehicle.


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Old 30 Dec 2007, 01:32 pm
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Brian Smith wrote:
>> People want to go the long and complicated route when the simple way is
>> staring them in the face...

>
> The simple method to use, is to simply use the key as provided and have
>the security it was designed to provide. Anything short of doing that can
>lead to the loss of your vehicle.


Well, I was just curious if it was possible to do this the "right way"
instead of placing a key near the ignition. Yeah, not as simple, but
simplicity was not a consideration for me at this time. I guess that's why I
also build my own computers And I can see how the chip keys result in
higher security. I was willin' to sacrifice that.

Thanks for the input folks. It was educational.

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Old 30 Dec 2007, 02:14 pm
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"Penthor via CarKB.com" <u40257@uwe> wrote in news:7d78c9804a45c@uwe:

> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> People want to go the long and complicated route when the simple way
>>> is staring them in the face...

>>
>> The simple method to use, is to simply use the key as provided and
>> have
>>the security it was designed to provide. Anything short of doing that
>>can lead to the loss of your vehicle.

>
> Well, I was just curious if it was possible to do this the "right way"
> instead of placing a key near the ignition. Yeah, not as simple, but
> simplicity was not a consideration for me at this time. I guess
> that's why I also build my own computers And I can see how the chip
> keys result in higher security. I was willin' to sacrifice that.
>
> Thanks for the input folks. It was educational.
>


I wish my 94 Integra GS-R has had this security feature;it was stolen last
June 29,stripped,and torched.They got in,started it,and drove off in less
than 60 seconds,alarm blaring.
Of course,Accords aren't that popular with the auto thieves.

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Old 30 Dec 2007, 02:37 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> People want to go the long and complicated route when the simple way
>>>> is staring them in the face...

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>>
>> Thanks for the input folks. It was educational.

>
>I wish my 94 Integra GS-R has had this security feature;it was stolen last
>June 29,stripped,and torched.They got in,started it,and drove off in less
>than 60 seconds,alarm blaring.
>Of course,Accords aren't that popular with the auto thieves.
>


I read somewhere that Accords were among the most likely to be stolen.

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