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Old 26 Dec 2007, 08:22 am
KR
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Default 96 Honda EX torn tie rod boot

Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
concerned? My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting? As long as my patch
stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone? I'm already
aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
be an alignment needed. Thanks.
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Old 26 Dec 2007, 10:09 am
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Default Re: 96 Honda EX torn tie rod boot

KR wrote:
> Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
> concerned? My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
> it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
> seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
> joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting? As long as my patch
> stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone? I'm already
> aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
> be an alignment needed. Thanks.


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Your parts diagrams at www.slhondaparts.com will probably give you some
help (and parts names). If you're talking about the boot on the Rack &
Pinion steering, it's full of air, and there's a breather hose that
allows air to pass from one side to the other when you turn the
steering. It can be changed without messing up the alignment.

What kind of 'Honda' are we talking about?

'Curly'

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Old 26 Dec 2007, 11:41 am
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Default Re: 96 Honda EX torn tie rod boot

On Dec 26, 11:09 am, motsco_ <mots...@interbaun.com> wrote:
> KR wrote:
> > Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
> > concerned? My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
> > it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
> > seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
> > joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting? As long as my patch
> > stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone? I'm already
> > aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
> > be an alignment needed. Thanks.

>
> -------------------------
>
> Your parts diagrams atwww.slhondaparts.comwill probably give you some
> help (and parts names). If you're talking about the boot on the Rack &
> Pinion steering, it's full of air, and there's a breather hose that
> allows air to pass from one side to the other when you turn the
> steering. It can be changed without messing up the alignment.
>
> What kind of 'Honda' are we talking about?
>
> 'Curly'


I'm talking about the tie rod dust seal - on a 96 Accord EX.
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Old 26 Dec 2007, 03:46 pm
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Default Re: 96 Honda EX torn tie rod boot

KR wrote:
> Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
> concerned?


no - it's mostly air inside. there is solid grease, but on the slider -
it's not semi-liquid like the driveshaft.

> My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
> it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
> seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
> joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting?


the grease, seal, slider and slider bearing from abrasion when grit
contaminates them.

> As long as my patch
> stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone?


yes - grit will still get in and significantly shorten the life of the
steering rack. a reconditioned rack is > $400. a boot is < $10.

> I'm already
> aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
> be an alignment needed. Thanks.

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Old 26 Dec 2007, 04:35 pm
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Default Re: 96 Honda EX torn tie rod boot

On Dec 26, 4:46 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> KR wrote:
> > Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
> > concerned?

>
> no - it's mostly air inside. there is solid grease, but on the slider -
> it's not semi-liquid like the driveshaft.
>
> > My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
> > it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
> > seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
> > joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting?

>
> the grease, seal, slider and slider bearing from abrasion when grit
> contaminates them.
>
> > As long as my patch
> > stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone?

>
> yes - grit will still get in and significantly shorten the life of the
> steering rack. a reconditioned rack is > $400. a boot is < $10.
>
> > I'm already
> > aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
> > be an alignment needed. Thanks.


Won't an alignment be needed as a result of the boot replacement?
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Old 26 Dec 2007, 05:11 pm
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KR wrote:
> On Dec 26, 4:46 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> KR wrote:
>>> Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
>>> concerned?

>> no - it's mostly air inside. there is solid grease, but on the slider -
>> it's not semi-liquid like the driveshaft.
>>
>>> My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
>>> it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
>>> seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
>>> joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting?

>> the grease, seal, slider and slider bearing from abrasion when grit
>> contaminates them.
>>
>>> As long as my patch
>>> stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone?

>> yes - grit will still get in and significantly shorten the life of the
>> steering rack. a reconditioned rack is > $400. a boot is < $10.
>>
>>> I'm already
>>> aware that to replace it the tie rod must be disconnected & there will
>>> be an alignment needed. Thanks.

>
> Won't an alignment be needed as a result of the boot replacement?


technically, yes. however, if you're careful and count the number of
turns you undo the locknut, and the number of turns to release the track
rod joint, you can put it back pretty much as you found it. this way,
you'll be ok for a while. if there is uneven tire wear evident, you may
have needed an alignment anyway.
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Old 27 Dec 2007, 09:57 am
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KR <ker1ker@gmail.com> wrote in news:a48863b7-b4b5-46d8-b51b-8d9b26c8f094
@f52g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> Is the tie rod "joint" like a CV joint as far as grease packing is
> concerned? My driver side tie rod boot is torn & I put a "patch" over
> it - heavy gauge plastic with cable ties at each end. There didn't
> seem to be any grease leaking out. I know it doesn't turn like a CV
> joint boot. What exactly is the boot protecting?




A balljoint.



> As long as my patch
> stays intact am I running any risks by leaving it alone?




You're running the risk of accelerated wear on the balljoint, since you
have no idea how much grit got in there. The potential consequences are
loose and imprecise steering, or complete loss of steering ability
accompanied by a possible collision.

The joint should be inspected every few months to make sure it's not worn
excessively. At this juncture it's best to replace the tie rod end.



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