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Old 07 Nov 2007, 11:14 am
ap
 
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Default parking with engine facing driveway

Hello,
I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
driveway with engine facing garage.

But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
facing the driveway.

The driveway to the garage is elevated.

Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
nor brakes, right?

Thanks !!

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Old 07 Nov 2007, 11:37 am
Tony Hwang
 
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ap wrote:
> Hello,
> I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
> Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
> driveway with engine facing garage.
>
> But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
> facing the driveway.
>
> The driveway to the garage is elevated.
>
> Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
> nor brakes, right?
>
> Thanks !!


Hi,
No, you can't. Park the car across the driveway one day engine facing
starboard, one day port side. That's the way it should be on inclined
drive way. Believe me by doing that my car lasted million miles, LOL!
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Old 07 Nov 2007, 11:50 am
Seth
 
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"ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
> Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
> driveway with engine facing garage.
>
> But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
> facing the driveway.
>
> The driveway to the garage is elevated.
>
> Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
> nor brakes, right?



If you properly use your parking brake it will have no effect on the
transmission which way you park.

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Old 07 Nov 2007, 03:46 pm
Jim Yanik
 
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"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
> news:1194452097.003836.132740@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>> Hello,
>> I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
>> Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
>> driveway with engine facing garage.
>>
>> But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
>> facing the driveway.
>>
>> The driveway to the garage is elevated.
>>
>> Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
>> nor brakes, right?

>
>
> If you properly use your parking brake it will have no effect on the
> transmission which way you park.
>
>


either direction,the parking pawl will have the same stress on it.

brakes get a LOT more stress during driving than during parking.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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Old 07 Nov 2007, 07:19 pm
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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>
> either direction,the parking pawl will have the same stress on it.


Incorrect. If the parking brake is applied before the transmission is
placed in park, there is no pressure applied to the parking pawl.



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Old 07 Nov 2007, 08:27 pm
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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
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>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns99E1A07D41114jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>>
>> either direction,the parking pawl will have the same stress on it.

>
> Incorrect. If the parking brake is applied before the transmission
> is
> placed in park, there is no pressure applied to the parking pawl.
>
>
>
>



If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
may never even drop into its notch.

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Old 07 Nov 2007, 09:02 pm
Jim Yanik
 
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Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
> news:eCsYi.7367$8S5.5574@edtnps82:
>
>>
>> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
>> news:Xns99E1A07D41114jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>>>
>>> either direction,the parking pawl will have the same stress on it.

>>
>> Incorrect. If the parking brake is applied before the transmission
>> is
>> placed in park, there is no pressure applied to the parking pawl.


Still -equal- pressure in either parking direction! B-)


>
>
> If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
> may never even drop into its notch.
>


but when you release the brake,the pawl will drop in and receive pressure.
(unless you have your foot on the brake.)

Or if the parking brake slips(or is frozen).
(could happen on steep slopes;that's why you're supposed to turn the front
wheels so the car rolls into the curb.)

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jyanik
at
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Old 07 Nov 2007, 09:29 pm
Tegger
 
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
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> Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130:
>


>>
>> If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
>> may never even drop into its notch.
>>

>
> but when you release the brake,the pawl will drop in and receive
> pressure. (unless you have your foot on the brake.)
>
> Or if the parking brake slips(or is frozen).
> (could happen on steep slopes;that's why you're supposed to turn the
> front wheels so the car rolls into the curb.)
>



All absolutely true, of course.

But the parking pawl of the modern automatic transmission is fairly robust
in the sense that it does not care which way any stress happens to come at
it. As well, even heavy stress will simply cause the tires to skid upon the
pavement well before the pawl breaks.

Remember the old "transmission brake"? That drum brake that was installed
at the rear of automatics up to about 1963? That was the original "parking
brake". It did not hold the wheels, just the driveshaft. This meant that
with your usual open diff, the right rear wheel was all that held the car
still when it was parked out-of-gear. Very much like a parking pawl.

The upshot of all this verbiage is that the OP can park his car any which
way from Sunday and it will be just fine. And he can apply the parking
brake anytime he chooses to. So long as he actually does so, that is...


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Old 07 Nov 2007, 11:19 pm
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Tegger wrote:

> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns99E1D61DC80DDjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>>Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>

>
>
>>>If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
>>>may never even drop into its notch.
>>>

>>
>>but when you release the brake,the pawl will drop in and receive
>>pressure. (unless you have your foot on the brake.)
>>
>>Or if the parking brake slips(or is frozen).
>>(could happen on steep slopes;that's why you're supposed to turn the
>>front wheels so the car rolls into the curb.)
>>

>
>
>
> All absolutely true, of course.
>
> But the parking pawl of the modern automatic transmission is fairly robust
> in the sense that it does not care which way any stress happens to come at
> it. As well, even heavy stress will simply cause the tires to skid upon the
> pavement well before the pawl breaks.
>
> Remember the old "transmission brake"? That drum brake that was installed
> at the rear of automatics up to about 1963? That was the original "parking
> brake". It did not hold the wheels, just the driveshaft. This meant that
> with your usual open diff, the right rear wheel was all that held the car
> still when it was parked out-of-gear. Very much like a parking pawl.
>
> The upshot of all this verbiage is that the OP can park his car any which
> way from Sunday and it will be just fine. And he can apply the parking
> brake anytime he chooses to. So long as he actually does so, that is...
>


What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!

JT


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Old 08 Nov 2007, 03:45 am
Brian Smith
 
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"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>
> If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
> may never even drop into its notch.


How do you figure that? If you place the transmission in neutral, then
apply the parking brake, then place the transmission in park, there's no
issue. It is the same as using the service brakes, then placing the
transmission in park and releasing the service brake, except for the fact
that the parking brake is already applied. Doing it in this manner removes
the strain (due to the weight of the vehicle) on the parking pawl.



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