Honda Car Forum

On Sep 10, 12:36 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 1:22 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com:
>
> >>> U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine. What about the
> >>> nut on the bottom of the filter. The top has the banjo bolt that can
> >>> more easily be accessed.
> >> You've got a different style of filter than I've got. You're saying the
> >> inlet is on top and the outlet on bottom? Same idea would apply: Impact in
> >> both places.
>
> >> --
> >> Tegger
>
> >> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> > OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top. The top has the banjo
> > bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.
>
> just leave the freakin' thing alone! if you're getting fuel starvation,
> you'll know it when you're ascending a 50% grade with the wife's mother,
> all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it. not
> before.

Why wait that long. If you wait that long until the filter is
starving the system, then there is dirt in it, yes? It can be assumed
that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
by. Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 12:36 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sep 9, 1:22 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com:
>>>>> U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine. What about the
>>>>> nut on the bottom of the filter. The top has the banjo bolt that can
>>>>> more easily be accessed.
>>>> You've got a different style of filter than I've got. You're saying the
>>>> inlet is on top and the outlet on bottom? Same idea would apply: Impact in
>>>> both places.
>>>> --
>>>> Tegger
>>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>>> OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top. The top has the banjo
>>> bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.
>> just leave the freakin' thing alone! if you're getting fuel starvation,
>> you'll know it when you're ascending a 50% grade with the wife's mother,
>> all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it. not
>> before.
>
> Why wait that long. If you wait that long until the filter is
> starving the system, then there is dirt in it, yes? It can be assumed
> that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
> by. Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?
>
because that dirt is in the filter, not the system! it can't harm the
pump because it's already passed through, and it can't pass through to
the injectors - it's perfectly safe where it is.

i smell "recreational" maintenance.

On Sep 10, 1:25 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 12:36 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sep 9, 1:22 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com:
> >>>>> U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine. What about the
> >>>>> nut on the bottom of the filter. The top has the banjo bolt that can
> >>>>> more easily be accessed.
> >>>> You've got a different style of filter than I've got. You're saying the
> >>>> inlet is on top and the outlet on bottom? Same idea would apply: Impact in
> >>>> both places.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Tegger
> >>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
> >>> OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top. The top has the banjo
> >>> bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.
> >> just leave the freakin' thing alone! if you're getting fuel starvation,
> >> you'll know it when you're ascending a 50% grade with the wife's mother,
> >> all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it. not
> >> before.
>
> > Why wait that long. If you wait that long until the filter is
> > starving the system, then there is dirt in it, yes? It can be assumed
> > that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
> > by. Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?
>
> because that dirt is in the filter, not the system! it can't harm the
> pump because it's already passed through, and it can't pass through to
> the injectors - it's perfectly safe where it is.
>
> i smell "recreational" maintenance.

Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?
Maybe not noticeable yet?

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in
news:1189402051.588334.107620@19g2000hsx.googlegro ups.com:

> On Sep 10, 1:25 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:

>>
>> i smell "recreational" maintenance.
>
> Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?
> Maybe not noticeable yet?
>
>


If you're really worried about starvation, you can get the fuel pressure
checked at a garage. The pump runs at a constant volume, so any low-flow
issues will be evident in the shop. You'll be around 40psi if fuel flow is
still good.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with "recreational maintenance" provided
you are aware you're doing it to make yourself feel better.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 1:25 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sep 10, 12:36 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 9, 1:22 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>>>>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote innews:1189312667.138780.48720@22g2000hsm.googlegr oups.com:
>>>>>>> U mentioned impact wrench on filter, which is fine. What about the
>>>>>>> nut on the bottom of the filter. The top has the banjo bolt that can
>>>>>>> more easily be accessed.
>>>>>> You've got a different style of filter than I've got. You're saying the
>>>>>> inlet is on top and the outlet on bottom? Same idea would apply: Impact in
>>>>>> both places.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tegger
>>>>>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>>>>> OK, the inlet is on bottom and the outlet top. The top has the banjo
>>>>> bolt, the bottom is the line going direct to the bottom of the filter.
>>>> just leave the freakin' thing alone! if you're getting fuel starvation,
>>>> you'll know it when you're ascending a 50% grade with the wife's mother,
>>>> all the kids, a roof rack and towing a trailer with a pig in it. not
>>>> before.
>>> Why wait that long. If you wait that long until the filter is
>>> starving the system, then there is dirt in it, yes? It can be assumed
>>> that the filter can only hold so much dirt before it starts to slip
>>> by. Why let that dirt in the system and do more harm than necessary?
>> because that dirt is in the filter, not the system! it can't harm the
>> pump because it's already passed through, and it can't pass through to
>> the injectors - it's perfectly safe where it is.
>>
>> i smell "recreational" maintenance.
>
> Does is not stand to reason that the dirt is bogging down the system?

not yet. the capacity of those things, under normal conditions, is over
300k miles.


> Maybe not noticeable yet?

/that/ is the point i keep asking - do you notice fuel starvation? you
know, full throttle, up a big hill, with the vehicle fully loaded....
if so, /that/ is when you change the filter, not before. honda fit real
filters with real mileage capacity, not those stupid thimble-sized
things that detroit uses.

I am curious: What does your owner's manual say about how
often the fuel filter should be changed?

For the 1997 Civic, it's every two years or 24k miles (UK
site's online service manual; I think it's a bit different
for American Hondas).

<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote
>I tried to change the fuel filter in my crv and cannot get
>the bolts
> to loosen up. Is there a trick to this? I tried to
> depressurize the
> fuel system by removing gas cap. I have the new honda
> filter in
> sealed packae for over a year. Please help!