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It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.

Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
likely today.

Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
problem as a result of that light coming on?

Regards,



Fred Atkinson

Fred Atkinson wrote:
> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>
> Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
> likely today.
>
> Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
> problem as a result of that light coming on?

Without the trouble code, no!

The check engine light means simply that... Get it checked. Any of the
auto parts places open? Many of them will check the code and decipher
it for you.

Without the code it could be anything from a) you left the gas cap loose
last time you filled up to z) you're about five minutes from a
catastrophic mechanical failure or something in between.

Likely it's something leaning towards the "A" end of the list, but...

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:09:24 -0700, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com>
wrote:

>Fred Atkinson wrote:
>> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
>> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>>
>> Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
>> likely today.
>>
>> Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
>> problem as a result of that light coming on?
>
>Without the trouble code, no!
>
>The check engine light means simply that... Get it checked. Any of the
> auto parts places open? Many of them will check the code and decipher
>it for you.
>
>Without the code it could be anything from a) you left the gas cap loose
>last time you filled up to z) you're about five minutes from a
>catastrophic mechanical failure or something in between.
>
>Likely it's something leaning towards the "A" end of the list, but...
>
Thanks,

How does one acquire the 'code'?



Fred

"Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:09:24 -0700, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
>>> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>>>
>>> Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
>>> likely today.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
>>> problem as a result of that light coming on?
>>
>>Without the trouble code, no!
>>
>>The check engine light means simply that... Get it checked. Any of the
>> auto parts places open? Many of them will check the code and decipher
>>it for you.
>>
>>Without the code it could be anything from a) you left the gas cap loose
>>last time you filled up to z) you're about five minutes from a
>>catastrophic mechanical failure or something in between.
>>
>>Likely it's something leaning towards the "A" end of the list, but...
>>
> Thanks,
>
> How does one acquire the 'code'?
>


Fred,

He answered you.

Go to an auto parts store, Auto Zone is one, and they will read the code for
you.
I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.

--
Bearman

If it's got tits, tires, tubes, or transistors, it's trouble.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:51:36 -0600, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>"Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote in message
>news:vesod3t0sccfmcfnmao60k4d89kq6jv1fr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:09:24 -0700, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>>> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
>>>> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>>>>
>>>> Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
>>>> likely today.
>>>>
>>>> Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
>>>> problem as a result of that light coming on?
>>>
>>>Without the trouble code, no!
>>>
>>>The check engine light means simply that... Get it checked. Any of the
>>> auto parts places open? Many of them will check the code and decipher
>>>it for you.
>>>
>>>Without the code it could be anything from a) you left the gas cap loose
>>>last time you filled up to z) you're about five minutes from a
>>>catastrophic mechanical failure or something in between.
>>>
>>>Likely it's something leaning towards the "A" end of the list, but...
>>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> How does one acquire the 'code'?
>>
>
>
>Fred,
>
>He answered you.
>
>Go to an auto parts store, Auto Zone is one, and they will read the code for
>you.
>I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.

I see. There's no way to retrieve the code yourself, then?



Fred Atkinson

>>Go to an auto parts store, Auto Zone is one, and they will read the code
>>for
>>you.
>>I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.
>
> I see. There's no way to retrieve the code yourself, then?


You can if you want to spend money to buy an OBDII reader. They cost some
$$$.

--
Bearman

"Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in
a swimming pool."

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:51:36 -0600, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:

>
>"Fred Atkinson" <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote in message
>news:vesod3t0sccfmcfnmao60k4d89kq6jv1fr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:09:24 -0700, Say What? <NotMe@NotYou.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>>> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
>>>> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>>>>
>>>> Ordinarily, I would just call a Honda place but that's not
>>>> likely today.
>>>>
>>>> Can you tell me specifically what I am looking for as a
>>>> problem as a result of that light coming on?
>>>
>>>Without the trouble code, no!
>>>
>>>The check engine light means simply that... Get it checked. Any of the
>>> auto parts places open? Many of them will check the code and decipher
>>>it for you.
>>>
>>>Without the code it could be anything from a) you left the gas cap loose
>>>last time you filled up to z) you're about five minutes from a
>>>catastrophic mechanical failure or something in between.
>>>
>>>Likely it's something leaning towards the "A" end of the list, but...
>>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> How does one acquire the 'code'?
>>
>
>
>Fred,
>
>He answered you.
>
>Go to an auto parts store, Auto Zone is one, and they will read the code for
>you.
>I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.

I road down to the corner to pick up some dinner. As I rode
by our local AutoZone, I noticed that they were open.

I stopped in. They ran the test. It's the O2 sensor. They
said I could continue to drive the car for a bit.

That's a relief. That's not cheap but not terribly expensive,
either.

Regards,



Fred Atkinson

Did they reset the light? (turn it off?)

If not, go to the fuse panel under the hood and pull the 7.5Amp fuse labelled
'Backup' for about 10-20 seconds. Then put it back in.

See if the same code comes back.

t

Fred Atkinson wrote:
>>>>> It would happen on Labor Day that the Check Car light came on
>>>>> on my 1996 Honda Civic CX.
>[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>>you.
>>I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.
>
> I road down to the corner to pick up some dinner. As I rode
>by our local AutoZone, I noticed that they were open.
>
> I stopped in. They ran the test. It's the O2 sensor. They
>said I could continue to drive the car for a bit.
>
> That's a relief. That's not cheap but not terribly expensive,
>either.
>
> Regards,
>
> Fred Atkinson

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Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote in
news:333pd3dgqhgohvi3up2h2553pgq1h183u4@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:51:36 -0600, "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote:
>

>>>
>>> How does one acquire the 'code'?
>>>
>>
>>
>>Fred,
>>
>>He answered you.
>>
>>Go to an auto parts store, Auto Zone is one, and they will read the
>>code for you.
>>I would call first to make sure they do offer that service.
>
> I see. There's no way to retrieve the code yourself, then?
>
>
>


There is. It involves using a paper clip to short the 2-pin Service Check
connector behind the passenger kick panel, turning the ignition to "II",
then reading the blinks of the MIL ("Check Engine" light).

The problem with this method is that the returned code will only be an
approximation of the actual ODB-II error stored by the ECM. This means it's
not actually of much use.

AutoZone, PartSource and many other chains will read the OBD-II code for
you for free. (AZ in CA will not do the code read for some reason.)

Once you have the code, diagnosis is possible. Right now it is not.


--
Tegger

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Fred Atkinson <fatkinson@mishmash.com> wrote in
news:hi4pd3tlj9gh85fqhtcsi6a1uq8tim895k@4ax.com:


>
> I road down to the corner to pick up some dinner. As I rode
> by our local AutoZone, I noticed that they were open.
>
> I stopped in. They ran the test. It's the O2 sensor.



What was the /actual/ error code number?

There are some two dozen ODB errors involving the oxygen sensors, some of
them not actually having to do with the sensor at all. On your model, some
errors can arise that appear to point to one thing, but are really due to
other things that are wholly unrelated.

The code will be something like "P0135", where the zero might actually be a
one, and the other numbers may be different.




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