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Old 21 Aug 2007, 05:39 pm
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Default Freon Gas Ppe. Which one to put it in?

I am not sure which pipe to put the Freon in on an 05 Accord. Is it the fat one or the skinny one? The fat one appears to be connected to the alternator and the skinny one to the radiator.
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Old 22 Aug 2007, 07:51 am
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Default Re: Freon Gas Ppe. Which one to put it in?

"Guest" <lcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
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I am not sure which pipe to put the Freon in on an 05 Accord. Is it the fat
one or the skinny one? The fat one appears to be connected to the
alternator and the skinny one to the radiator.

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I think you are over your head on this. There are too many ways to go wrong
in recharging a car air conditioner made since about 1994 and several of
them can seriously damage the compressor. In Ye Olden Days of R-12
refrigerant I recharged lots of air conditioners with good results, but the
one time I went against the experts' advice and tried to charge a newer
R-134a system it took me to school. Now I do what I advise you to do: take
it to a professional. BTW - if your two year old car really needs more
refrigerant (I doubt it) something is wrong.

Mike



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Old 22 Aug 2007, 09:23 am
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"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
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> "Guest" <lcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:2JadnVC-NIEA9FbbnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I am not sure which pipe to put the Freon in on an 05 Accord. Is it the
> fat one or the skinny one? The fat one appears to be connected to the
> alternator and the skinny one to the radiator.
>
> ================================================== ==========
>
> I think you are over your head on this. There are too many ways to go
> wrong in recharging a car air conditioner made since about 1994 and
> several of them can seriously damage the compressor. In Ye Olden Days of
> R-12 refrigerant I recharged lots of air conditioners with good results,
> but the one time I went against the experts' advice and tried to charge a
> newer R-134a system it took me to school. Now I do what I advise you to
> do: take it to a professional. BTW - if your two year old car really needs
> more refrigerant (I doubt it) something is wrong.
>
> Mike
>
>



That's what I thought too since my old Civic ran for over 5 years without
the air conditioner going out. It seems to have happened after I took it to
get an oil change.

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Old 25 Aug 2007, 05:13 pm
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Default Re: Freon Gas Ppe. Which one to put it in?

Guest wrote:
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:YuKdnTGEeMj7rFHbnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Guest" <lcoolj@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:2JadnVC-NIEA9FbbnZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I am not sure which pipe to put the Freon in on an 05 Accord. Is it
>> the fat one or the skinny one? The fat one appears to be connected to
>> the alternator and the skinny one to the radiator.
>>
>> ================================================== ==========
>>
>> I think you are over your head on this. There are too many ways to go
>> wrong in recharging a car air conditioner made since about 1994 and
>> several of them can seriously damage the compressor. In Ye Olden Days
>> of R-12 refrigerant I recharged lots of air conditioners with good
>> results, but the one time I went against the experts' advice and tried
>> to charge a newer R-134a system it took me to school. Now I do what I
>> advise you to do: take it to a professional. BTW - if your two year
>> old car really needs more refrigerant (I doubt it) something is wrong.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>

>
>
> That's what I thought too since my old Civic ran for over 5 years
> without the air conditioner going out. It seems to have happened after
> I took it to get an oil change.

All the troubles of my friends and family with Hondas seem to be
associated with an oil change, usually at some fast lube joint, where
they snag a connector and unplug the AC compressor, or slice a hose or
belt, with a razor knife or box cutter, or, they sell the poor customer
on the idea of a 'engine flush'!

Hondas do NOT need an engine flush! They charge an extra $9,95 and pour
a pint of kerosene into the oil fill, run the engine for five minutes,
and then drain the oil.

At the least it caused sludge formation that required some disassembly
to fix, and in one case it scored the cam shaft! It does definitely
cause some oils to congeal into jello, we witnessed that!

Kerosene does NOT MEET SAE specification as an engine additive!

Slicing belts and hoses to then sell new ones plus install, all at
hugely inflated prices (quoted $49.99 !) can get them in trouble, like
with the BBB IF any one ever reports it!

Most folks just learn a lesson, and move on. The fast lube, Jiffy Lube,
and other cheaters just live on!

No one touches my Hondas or other vehicles, but me, or Courtesy Honda in
Lake Mary, Florida, because they have been absolutely marvelous to so
many of my friends and acquaintances.

At 60, having worked on motor vehicles since 1963, I never thought I
would ever state this about any service department or dealership, having
been (or almost been) shafted so many times, in so many places.

If you haven't been to school on automotive systems, and don't have
proper manuals, I really recommend you stick to doing simply
maintenance, and asking here, as you notice things, and taking the
advise of experienced technicians.

I have enve gotten some great advise here, that saved me $1982.00 in
May, for repairs to my CRV! Thank you, guys!

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