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Old 20 Nov 2014, 06:15 pm
JRStern
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Default Hands free - feature or bug?

OK, I'm driving around in my 2013 Accord and the phone rings and I hit
the hands-free (!) answer, and I'm talking to the guy, and I pull over
and park, and - can I turn off the car and keep the call? I turn off
the car, pick up my cell phone, and the call is still live, hurray!

So I finish the call, go off to lunch, come back and start the car -
and it reports "no phone is attached, do you want to attach your
phone?" and it remembers that my phone is a Samsung yada yada, so I
hit yes, and it reattaches - and another call comes in and it's all
fine.

So, is that a feature or bug, that when you turn off the car in the
middle of the call, it detaches the phone connection?

My guess is, bug.

J.

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Old 21 Nov 2014, 05:19 am
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Default Re: Hands free - feature or bug?

In article <mr0t6at015ma87o5oegt30o9u33e8qoeat@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> OK, I'm driving around in my 2013 Accord and the phone rings and I hit
> the hands-free (!) answer, and I'm talking to the guy, and I pull over
> and park, and - can I turn off the car and keep the call? I turn off
> the car, pick up my cell phone, and the call is still live, hurray!
>
> So I finish the call, go off to lunch, come back and start the car -
> and it reports "no phone is attached, do you want to attach your
> phone?" and it remembers that my phone is a Samsung yada yada, so I
> hit yes, and it reattaches - and another call comes in and it's all
> fine.
>
> So, is that a feature or bug, that when you turn off the car in the
> middle of the call, it detaches the phone connection?
>
> My guess is, bug.
>
> J.


My guess is, bug with the Bluetooth implementation on your phone.
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Old 21 Nov 2014, 10:23 am
Matthew Fries
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Default Re: Hands free - feature or bug?

On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 06:19:17 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <mr0t6at015ma87o5oegt30o9u33e8qoeat@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'm driving around in my 2013 Accord and the phone rings and I hit
>> the hands-free (!) answer, and I'm talking to the guy, and I pull over
>> and park, and - can I turn off the car and keep the call? I turn off
>> the car, pick up my cell phone, and the call is still live, hurray!
>>
>> So I finish the call, go off to lunch, come back and start the car -
>> and it reports "no phone is attached, do you want to attach your
>> phone?" and it remembers that my phone is a Samsung yada yada, so I
>> hit yes, and it reattaches - and another call comes in and it's all
>> fine.
>>
>> So, is that a feature or bug, that when you turn off the car in the
>> middle of the call, it detaches the phone connection?
>>
>> My guess is, bug.
>>
>> J.

>
>My guess is, bug with the Bluetooth implementation on your phone.



I used to have a blackberry paired with my 2012 civic, and when I was
streaming music from it, I would get song information (title, artist,
etc) on the car's display. When I switched to an android phone (it was
an old Gingerbread implementation), that info was replaced with just
the bluetooth name of my phone. The audio still worked though.

So I upgraded the OS on my phone to Cyanogenmod (Jelly Bean Variant),
which also upgraded the bluetooth stack, and I get song info now. On
the downside, advancing tracks takes about 2-3 seconds, where the
blackberry was almost instant, but I can live with that.

Perhaps an upgrade on your phone's OS will help.
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Old 21 Nov 2014, 11:46 am
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:23:39 -0600, Matthew Fries <nobody@home.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 06:19:17 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
><elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <mr0t6at015ma87o5oegt30o9u33e8qoeat@4ax.com>,
>> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I'm driving around in my 2013 Accord and the phone rings and I hit
>>> the hands-free (!) answer, and I'm talking to the guy, and I pull over
>>> and park, and - can I turn off the car and keep the call? I turn off
>>> the car, pick up my cell phone, and the call is still live, hurray!
>>>
>>> So I finish the call, go off to lunch, come back and start the car -
>>> and it reports "no phone is attached, do you want to attach your
>>> phone?" and it remembers that my phone is a Samsung yada yada, so I
>>> hit yes, and it reattaches - and another call comes in and it's all
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> So, is that a feature or bug, that when you turn off the car in the
>>> middle of the call, it detaches the phone connection?
>>>
>>> My guess is, bug.
>>>
>>> J.

>>
>>My guess is, bug with the Bluetooth implementation on your phone.

>
>
>I used to have a blackberry paired with my 2012 civic, and when I was
>streaming music from it, I would get song information (title, artist,
>etc) on the car's display. When I switched to an android phone (it was
>an old Gingerbread implementation), that info was replaced with just
>the bluetooth name of my phone. The audio still worked though.
>
>So I upgraded the OS on my phone to Cyanogenmod (Jelly Bean Variant),
>which also upgraded the bluetooth stack, and I get song info now. On
>the downside, advancing tracks takes about 2-3 seconds, where the
>blackberry was almost instant, but I can live with that.
>
>Perhaps an upgrade on your phone's OS will help.


--

Phone is brand new and I believe up to date, and fwiw Honda software
updated as well about six months ago - it forgot my phone when
updated, had to be resynced, and later I got this new phone, dropped
the old one synced the new one.

And Elmo, it wasn't my phone that dropped the car, it was the car that
dropped the phone. It wasn't (did not appear to be) any problem with
the phone not answering the car.

J.

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Old 21 Nov 2014, 01:21 pm
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Default Re: Hands free - feature or bug?

Hands free or not, DO NOT talk on the phone while driving.
Hands free conversations have turned out to just as dangerous
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 08:35 am
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Default Re: Hands free - feature or bug?

In article <2duu6ap19jldulloe8qgtshqu6amib32bo@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> Phone is brand new and I believe up to date


yeah, that doesn't matter. It's still a wild west out there in this
regard, and not all phones are created equal. Just because it says
"does Bluetooth" doesn't mean it integrates with Honda's implementation.
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 08:36 am
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In article <2duu6ap19jldulloe8qgtshqu6amib32bo@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> And Elmo, it wasn't my phone that dropped the car, it was the car that
> dropped the phone. It wasn't (did not appear to be) any problem with
> the phone not answering the car.


Doesn't matter; that doesn't mean it's not the phone's fault.

In general, it IS the phone's fault. If you tried another phone, your
problem wouldn't happen.
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Old 22 Nov 2014, 11:16 am
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:36:24 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <2duu6ap19jldulloe8qgtshqu6amib32bo@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And Elmo, it wasn't my phone that dropped the car, it was the car that
>> dropped the phone. It wasn't (did not appear to be) any problem with
>> the phone not answering the car.

>
>Doesn't matter; that doesn't mean it's not the phone's fault.
>
>In general, it IS the phone's fault. If you tried another phone, your
>problem wouldn't happen.


Anyone want to try it with their phone and see what happens?

J.

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Old 22 Nov 2014, 11:21 am
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:21:02 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
wrote:

>Hands free or not, DO NOT talk on the phone while driving.
>Hands free conversations have turned out to just as dangerous


Talking to a passenger is bad, too.

And I hit a parked car when I was driving and eating french fries,
when I was seventeen.

But overall I agree, even reaching over to dismiss an incoming call is
a distraction, even looking to see if it's a call you need to take. I
try to limit any discussions while driving and about the only outgoing
calls I make are, "Hey I'm running late".

OTOH I have more than one "friend" who seem to like to have the phone
going continuously especially when they're stuck in slow traffic just
to chat.

J.

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Old 23 Nov 2014, 11:14 am
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 09:21:14 -0800, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:21:02 -0500, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>Hands free or not, DO NOT talk on the phone while driving.
>>Hands free conversations have turned out to just as dangerous

>
>Talking to a passenger is bad, too.


Passengers in the same car as you are not as distracting. They also
see the road, and feel the movement of the car. If you are about to be
put in peril, they will know and usually shut up so you can
concentrate, because it's their life on the line too.
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