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Old 13 Nov 2014, 11:47 am
JRStern
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Default New Honda steering problems/recall?

Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?

Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
apparently you can still steer with heavy effort, it's not
steering-by-wire?

Thanks,

J.

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Old 13 Nov 2014, 05:58 pm
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"JRStern" wrote

> Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?
>
> Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
> apparently you can still steer with heavy effort, it's not
> steering-by-wire?


Where are you seeing this?
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Old 13 Nov 2014, 08:18 pm
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JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in news:g2o96ad8olv2lq1efvq4aj5u756he1bsi0@4ax.com:

> Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?
>
> Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
> apparently you can still steer with heavy effort,



http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ering-failures

Excerpt:
"WASHINGTON (Bloomberg) -- Honda Motor Co.'s Accord,
the best- selling car to U.S. individual buyers in
the first half of this year, is being investigated
by the U.S. after regulators received 24 complaints
about power-steering failure in 2013 models."

Yadda yadda yadda.

Twenty-four "complaints". Out of 360,089 cars sold.

Until VERY recently, NHTSA didn't bother to look
into ANYTHING until they had received at least
a THOUSAND complaints.

Why? Because on investigation it always turned out
universally that 999 to 1000 of those thousand
complaints were groundless.

But, what with the very recent mindless panics and
media/labor-union anti-Toyota politicization, NHTSA
has been badgered into responding to the most trivial
and baseless non-events.


> it's not
> steering-by-wire?
>



You surely simply have electric boost instead of
hydraulic boost. The steering itself is still a
solid mechanical hookup from steering wheel to road wheel..

You want "fly by wire"? Buy a Boeing.


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Old 13 Nov 2014, 08:35 pm
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:18:02 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.org>
wrote:

>JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in news:g2o96ad8olv2lq1efvq4aj5u756he1bsi0@4ax.com:
>
>> Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?
>>
>> Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
>> apparently you can still steer with heavy effort,

>
>
>http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ering-failures
>
>Excerpt:
>"WASHINGTON (Bloomberg) -- Honda Motor Co.'s Accord,
>the best- selling car to U.S. individual buyers in
>the first half of this year, is being investigated
>by the U.S. after regulators received 24 complaints
>about power-steering failure in 2013 models."
>
>Yadda yadda yadda.
>
>Twenty-four "complaints". Out of 360,089 cars sold.
>
>Until VERY recently, NHTSA didn't bother to look
>into ANYTHING until they had received at least
>a THOUSAND complaints.
>
>Why? Because on investigation it always turned out
>universally that 999 to 1000 of those thousand
>complaints were groundless.
>
>But, what with the very recent mindless panics and
>media/labor-union anti-Toyota politicization, NHTSA
>has been badgered into responding to the most trivial
>and baseless non-events.
>
>
>> it's not
>> steering-by-wire?
>>

>
>
>You surely simply have electric boost instead of
>hydraulic boost. The steering itself is still a
>solid mechanical hookup from steering wheel to road wheel..
>
>You want "fly by wire"? Buy a Boeing.


Isn't the gas pedal by-wire? Tran shit?

I guess not the brakes??

In 2024 it'll all be by wire with Asimo driving.

J.


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Old 13 Nov 2014, 09:16 pm
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JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in
news:10na6apshhss9h0svar5ct75r14g1kcb76@4ax.com:


>
> Isn't the gas pedal by-wire?




Yes, just like a Boeing.

Computer control of the throttle is necessary for VSA regulations and the
latest emissions regulations.


>
> I guess not the brakes??




Thankfully, NO. At least not completely. Yet.
But ABS and VSA are taking us close to that.



>
> In 2024 it'll all be by wire with Asimo driving.
>




By 2024 we will be living the life of 6079 Smith W.
We're most of the way there now.



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Old 14 Nov 2014, 07:53 am
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On 11/13/14, 9:16 PM, Tegger wrote:
> JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in
> news:10na6apshhss9h0svar5ct75r14g1kcb76@4ax.com:
>
>
>>
>> Isn't the gas pedal by-wire?

>
>
>
> Yes, just like a Boeing.
>
> Computer control of the throttle is necessary for VSA regulations and the
> latest emissions regulations.
>
>
>>
>> I guess not the brakes??

>
>
>
> Thankfully, NO. At least not completely. Yet.
> But ABS and VSA are taking us close to that.
>
>
>
>>
>> In 2024 it'll all be by wire with Asimo driving.
>>

>
>
>
> By 2024 we will be living the life of 6079 Smith W.
> We're most of the way there now.
>
>
>


Ve are vatching you, Tegger...and haff put eine tracking transponder en
chor Honda...

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Old 14 Nov 2014, 01:15 pm
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:35:14 -0800, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:18:02 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.org>
>wrote:
>
>>JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in news:g2o96ad8olv2lq1efvq4aj5u756he1bsi0@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?
>>>
>>> Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
>>> apparently you can still steer with heavy effort,

>>
>>
>>http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ering-failures
>>
>>Excerpt:
>>"WASHINGTON (Bloomberg) -- Honda Motor Co.'s Accord,
>>the best- selling car to U.S. individual buyers in
>>the first half of this year, is being investigated
>>by the U.S. after regulators received 24 complaints
>>about power-steering failure in 2013 models."
>>
>>Yadda yadda yadda.
>>
>>Twenty-four "complaints". Out of 360,089 cars sold.
>>
>>Until VERY recently, NHTSA didn't bother to look
>>into ANYTHING until they had received at least
>>a THOUSAND complaints.
>>
>>Why? Because on investigation it always turned out
>>universally that 999 to 1000 of those thousand
>>complaints were groundless.
>>
>>But, what with the very recent mindless panics and
>>media/labor-union anti-Toyota politicization, NHTSA
>>has been badgered into responding to the most trivial
>>and baseless non-events.
>>
>>
>>> it's not
>>> steering-by-wire?
>>>

>>
>>
>>You surely simply have electric boost instead of
>>hydraulic boost. The steering itself is still a
>>solid mechanical hookup from steering wheel to road wheel..
>>
>>You want "fly by wire"? Buy a Boeing.

>
>Isn't the gas pedal by-wire? Tran shit?


Ahem. Make that "shift".

I really like the BMW "manual" shifter that clicks like a high-end
game controller, I think it's absurd that the Honda automatic shifter
still clunks and pretends to be a mechanical linkage. Shit, Chrysler
had push-buttons in the 1960s. And I still want paddle-shifters to
help my CVT to respond better. I see Honda finally expanded the paint
colors available on the sport model, but it lacks a sunroof ... have
they made paddle shifters an available option yet on the non-sport?

J.



>
>I guess not the brakes??
>
>In 2024 it'll all be by wire with Asimo driving.
>
>J.
>


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Old 14 Nov 2014, 01:18 pm
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:15:18 -0800, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:35:14 -0800, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:18:02 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in news:g2o96ad8olv2lq1efvq4aj5u756he1bsi0@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Wassup with that, it may include my 2013 Accord?
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't sound horrible, power steering goes out at speed but
>>>> apparently you can still steer with heavy effort,
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ering-failures
>>>
>>>Excerpt:
>>>"WASHINGTON (Bloomberg) -- Honda Motor Co.'s Accord,
>>>the best- selling car to U.S. individual buyers in
>>>the first half of this year, is being investigated
>>>by the U.S. after regulators received 24 complaints
>>>about power-steering failure in 2013 models."
>>>
>>>Yadda yadda yadda.
>>>
>>>Twenty-four "complaints". Out of 360,089 cars sold.
>>>
>>>Until VERY recently, NHTSA didn't bother to look
>>>into ANYTHING until they had received at least
>>>a THOUSAND complaints.
>>>
>>>Why? Because on investigation it always turned out
>>>universally that 999 to 1000 of those thousand
>>>complaints were groundless.
>>>
>>>But, what with the very recent mindless panics and
>>>media/labor-union anti-Toyota politicization, NHTSA
>>>has been badgered into responding to the most trivial
>>>and baseless non-events.
>>>
>>>
>>>> it's not
>>>> steering-by-wire?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>You surely simply have electric boost instead of
>>>hydraulic boost. The steering itself is still a
>>>solid mechanical hookup from steering wheel to road wheel..
>>>
>>>You want "fly by wire"? Buy a Boeing.

>>
>>Isn't the gas pedal by-wire? Tran shit?

>
>Ahem. Make that "shift".
>
>I really like the BMW "manual" shifter that clicks like a high-end
>game controller, I think it's absurd that the Honda automatic shifter
>still clunks and pretends to be a mechanical linkage. Shit, Chrysler
>had push-buttons in the 1960s. And I still want paddle-shifters to
>help my CVT to respond better. I see Honda finally expanded the paint
>colors available on the sport model, but it lacks a sunroof ... have
>they made paddle shifters an available option yet on the non-sport?


BUGGERS! The EXL now comes with paddle shifters standard!

Well, it's a good decision. Wish I had them.

Any chance the dealer can install them for me now?

J.



>
>J.
>
>
>
>>
>>I guess not the brakes??
>>
>>In 2024 it'll all be by wire with Asimo driving.
>>
>>J.
>>


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