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Old 23 May 2014, 08:42 am
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Default 2014 Accord

Thinking about trading in my 02 EXL for a new one while the 03 still has good trade-in value and I want to go automatic this time, have been doing a lot of city/inner suburb driving and at my age the clutch is becoming a nuisance.

One feature I really like on my 03 is the window opening when you hold downthe door unlock key, very nice after the car has been sitting in the sun. One feature I do not have that I want is heated outside rear mirrors. Here in New England, that would be useful, had them on a Volvo 850 and that isthe sole thing about the car I miss.

Any 14 owners out there with good/bad/indifferent experiences? Can anyone confirm that the window opening feature has been retained? I plan to go looking soon, have some ideas of cost from the KBB site. If the dealer offers are close to the KBB estimates after trade, I plan to get a new one. If they are too far off, then I will keep the 03 a couple more years.

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Old 23 May 2014, 01:06 pm
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On Fri, 23 May 2014 05:42:08 -0700 (PDT), Dave
<harrisonspace@gmail.com> wrote:

>Thinking about trading in my 02 EXL for a new one while the 03 still has good trade-in value and I want to go automatic this time, have been doing a lot of city/inner suburb driving and at my age the clutch is becoming a nuisance.
>
>One feature I really like on my 03 is the window opening when you hold down the door unlock key, very nice after the car has been sitting in the sun. One feature I do not have that I want is heated outside rear mirrors. Here in New England, that would be useful, had them on a Volvo 850 and that is the sole thing about the car I miss.
>
>Any 14 owners out there with good/bad/indifferent experiences? Can anyone confirm that the window opening feature has been retained? I plan to go looking soon, have some ideas of cost from the KBB site. If the dealer offers are close to the KBB estimates after trade, I plan to get a new one. If they are too far off, then I will keep the 03 a couple more years.


The cars have changed a *lot* since 02, the 4-cylinder Accords have
the CVT automatic. I'm still trying to get fully accustomed to it, I
like it overall but it's different, and frankly I think I still prefer
the driveability aspects of my parents' 1963 Buick Turbo-Hydromatic
3-speed better than any automatic Honda has yet put on the road.

The overall handling and ride are much, much improved since 02. Plus
you get cameras and collision warnings and just all kinds of
electronic toys. I'm not even sure about that window-opening feature,
I never used it.

I'm driving a 2013 EXL4, I don't know of any large changes to 2014 -
or 2015.

J.

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Old 24 May 2014, 07:37 am
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In article <1eb041b6-11ad-4778-9d01-0e01e93d58d1@googlegroups.com>,
Dave <harrisonspace@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thinking about trading in my 02 EXL for a new one while the 03 still has good
> trade-in value and I want to go automatic this time, have been doing a lot of
> city/inner suburb driving and at my age the clutch is becoming a nuisance.
>
> One feature I really like on my 03 is the window opening when you hold down
> the door unlock key, very nice after the car has been sitting in the sun.
> One feature I do not have that I want is heated outside rear mirrors. Here
> in New England, that would be useful, had them on a Volvo 850 and that is the
> sole thing about the car I miss.
>
> Any 14 owners out there with good/bad/indifferent experiences? Can anyone
> confirm that the window opening feature has been retained? I plan to go
> looking soon, have some ideas of cost from the KBB site. If the dealer
> offers are close to the KBB estimates after trade, I plan to get a new one.
> If they are too far off, then I will keep the 03 a couple more years.


If you keep a car 11 years (and no reason you shouldn't), get the
Hybrid. Slick, slick, slick--and it works.
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Old 24 May 2014, 10:16 am
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I did a quick check on the Accord Hybrid EXL, learned that its MSRP is not much more than a gas one, but selling price is a lot closer to MSRP, whereas the gas one is discounted in my area, according to the Kelly Blue Book site. The cost difference would take about 25,000 miles to recover in gas cost, about 2.5 years for me, exclusive of lost investment income. The hybrid also has a smaller trunk, not sure what my wife would think about having less hauling capacity from a garden center. I could not find on the Honda website any mention if the hybrid has a fold down rear seat, something I use frequently.

I'll have to test drive a couple, see if I am happy with the CVT.

Thanks for responding.

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Old 24 May 2014, 10:44 am
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In article <60232bd6-e0fa-4d2f-8beb-6091abb9333c@googlegroups.com>,
Dave <harrisonspace@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did a quick check on the Accord Hybrid EXL, learned that its MSRP is not
> much more than a gas one, but selling price is a lot closer to MSRP, whereas
> the gas one is discounted in my area, according to the Kelly Blue Book site.
> The cost difference would take about 25,000 miles to recover in gas cost,
> about 2.5 years for me, exclusive of lost investment income.


Go further with that calculation, and see what 8.5 more years will put
back in your pocket.
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Old 24 May 2014, 02:46 pm
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On 5/24/2014 09:16, Dave wrote:
> I did a quick check on the Accord Hybrid EXL, learned that its MSRP is not much more than a gas one, but selling price is a lot closer to MSRP, whereas the gas one is discounted in my area, according to the Kelly Blue Book site. The cost difference would take about 25,000 miles to recover in gas cost, about 2.5 years for me, exclusive of lost investment income. The hybrid also has a smaller trunk, not sure what my wife would think about having less hauling capacity from a garden center. I could not find on the Honda website any mention if the hybrid has a fold down rear seat, something I use frequently.
>
> I'll have to test drive a couple, see if I am happy with the CVT.
>
> Thanks for responding.
>

I have a 2013 EX. I find the CVT a little "jittery" (maybe not the best
word) at coast or light acceleration up to around 30-35 mph. Minor
annoyance, but it is noticeable.

Jim
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Old 24 May 2014, 09:26 pm
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 13:46:50 -0500, Jim <user@examle.net> wrote:

>On 5/24/2014 09:16, Dave wrote:
>> I did a quick check on the Accord Hybrid EXL, learned that its MSRP is not much more than a gas one, but selling price is a lot closer to MSRP, whereas the gas one is discounted in my area, according to the Kelly Blue Book site. The cost difference would take about 25,000 miles to recover in gas cost, about 2.5 years for me, exclusive of lost investment income. The hybrid also has a smaller trunk, not sure what my wife would think about having less hauling capacity from a garden center. I could not find on the Honda website any mention if the hybrid has a fold down rear seat, something I use frequently.
>>
>> I'll have to test drive a couple, see if I am happy with the CVT.
>>
>> Thanks for responding.
>>

>I have a 2013 EX. I find the CVT a little "jittery" (maybe not the best
>word) at coast or light acceleration up to around 30-35 mph. Minor
>annoyance, but it is noticeable.


Yes, it hunts, it's a little unstable, the algorithm needs some work,
some hysteresis added. You can fight it somewhat by driving with
super-light foot until you need power than asking for a little more -
doing your own hysteresis. Or putting it in sport mode, but that runs
a lot more RPMs and somewhat less mileage.

I haven't tried the hybrid, reports have it that the driveability is
less than the gas models, which might make it irritating. If you do a
lot of stop and go I'd try for the hybrid, the 2013 is hard-pressed to
maintain 20mpg in city driving even driven carefully, and even though
it's happy to get 36++ on the highway driven moderately.

J.

>
>Jim


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