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Old 24 Sep 2013, 03:27 am
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Default Honda's New 50MPG City Accord Hybrid Priced from $29,155*

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Prices for the new Accord Hybrid start at $29,155 for the base model,
rising to $31,905 for the EX-L and topping out at $34,905 for the
Touring model, plus a destination and handling charge of $790 (*),
which compares to a starting price of $39,780 for the Accord Plug-in
Hybrid (PHEV).

Sharing the same hybrid powertrain with the Accord PHEV sans the
plug-in capability and the larger battery, the Accord Hybrid pairs a
137hp 2.0-liter inline four to a 166hp (124kW) electric motor for a
combined system output of 196hp. The Accord Hybrid returns EPA
fuel-economy ratings of 50 mpg city, 45 mpg highway and 47 mpg
combined (5.0l/100km).

All Accord Hybrids come equipped as standard with Honda's LaneWatch
blind spot display system, a rearview camera, LED daytime running
lights (DRL), Bluetooth HandsFreeLink, USB/iPo integration, Pandor
compatibility, SMS text message function, dual-zone automatic climate
control, alloy wheels, a driver's seat with 10-way power adjustment,
and a 160-watt AM/FM/CD audio system.

Moving up to the EX-L adds Forward Collision Warning (FCW) and Lane
Departure Warning (LDW) along with leather-trimmed and heated front
seats, the HondaLink cloud-based media and connectivity system, power
driver's seat memory, front passenger seat with 4-way power adjustment
and one-touch moonroof.

The range-topping Touring grade completes the list by adding the Honda
Satellite-Linked Navigation System, LED headlights with blue tinted
chrome bezels, Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and hard disk drive (HDD)
audio memory.
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Old 25 Sep 2013, 01:03 am
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Default Re: Honda's New 50MPG City Accord Hybrid Priced from $29,155*

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 03:27:19 -0500,
mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) wrote:

>Sharing the same hybrid powertrain with the Accord PHEV sans the
>plug-in capability and the larger battery, the Accord Hybrid pairs a
>137hp 2.0-liter inline four to a 166hp (124kW) electric motor for a
>combined system output of 196hp. The Accord Hybrid returns EPA
>fuel-economy ratings of 50 mpg city, 45 mpg highway and 47 mpg
>combined (5.0l/100km).


I'm still unclear on the concept, can someone enlighten me?

1. So when driving the Accord hybrid down the freeway I'm using the
gas engine, and if I put my foot in it for acceleration the electric
motors cut in and instantly give me another 29hp?

2. I gather this is NOT true of the Prius, that only uses its
electric drive below 15mph?

3. The new non-plugin Accord hybrid can go how far and how fast in
100% electric drive? The plugin is good for 13 miles, it says, and I
gather that includes freeway speeds?



Thanks,

J.

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Old 25 Sep 2013, 05:29 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: Honda's New 50MPG City Accord Hybrid Priced from $29,155*

In article <fvu44993j0kd1hufj32sn758n7ord3puh8@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> I'm still unclear on the concept, can someone enlighten me?
>
> 1. So when driving the Accord hybrid down the freeway I'm using the
> gas engine, and if I put my foot in it for acceleration the electric
> motors cut in and instantly give me another 29hp?


no.


> 2. I gather this is NOT true of the Prius, that only uses its
> electric drive below 15mph?


no.


The Accord uses a completely different drivetrain from anything Honda or
Toyota has ever done that, as far as I can tell, is unique. Read up on
it, and the Prius drivetrain, and be sure to look for diagrams.

The Prius--plug-in or no--can go up to 41mph on electric motors. I
believe the Honda can go up to 55.

I have a Prius and know its drivetrain intimately, having studied it
when I first got it. I am highly intrigued by the new Honda drivetrain.
It brings simplicity and elegance to the table, and fewer moving parts
than the Prius, and if it can indeed give the Accord 45mpg for an extra
$3K of price then it'll be a winner.
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Old 25 Sep 2013, 12:24 pm
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Default Re: Honda's New 50MPG City Accord Hybrid Priced from $29,155*

After poking around I I don't understand how the drivetrain
works. Of the few details I've come across it sounds like
it now longer uses the IMA approach of the Civic HCH, Insight
and previous Accord hybrid.

Articles I've found mention Atkinson cycle engine, so it
sounds like they have copied Toyota's approach. Do they
also use the Toyota approach of teh two motor-generator
and a fixed planetary gear to implement the CVT?
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