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Old 30 May 2013, 03:36 pm
William Munny
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Default Brake Pad Wear

Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
getting close to the sensor (3mm).

Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?


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Old 30 May 2013, 04:38 pm
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Default Re: Brake Pad Wear

William Munny wrote:
> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>
> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
>


3mm is not "getting close" on rear pads.

IME,
GW
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Old 30 May 2013, 06:04 pm
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Default Re: Brake Pad Wear



"William Munny" wrote in message news:ko89ol$8i4$1@news.albasani.net...

Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
getting close to the sensor (3mm).

Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
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Reply: On my 06 Accord I4 coupe, the rears had to be replaced at 55k and the
fronts at 75k. Apparently, this is "normal" for this model.

TWW


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Old 30 May 2013, 08:16 pm
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Default Re: Brake Pad Wear

"tww1491" wrote

wear out first?
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> Reply: On my 06 Accord I4 coupe, the rears had to be replaced at 55k and
> the fronts at 75k. Apparently, this is "normal" for this model.


On my 04 I4 EX sedan, the rears had to be replaced at around 30K. At 90K
when I traded it in on a '13, the fronts had never needed replacement.


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Old 30 May 2013, 08:36 pm
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William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote in news:ko89ol$8i4$1
@news.albasani.net:

> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>
> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
>
>




It's normal. The rear brakes supply so little braking effort that it's
difficult to bring them up to temperature unless the pads are small and
soft.

The pads start out at 7mm with the wear-sensor at about 2mm away from the
backing, so you're down 4mm.from new. That's roughly 11,000 miles per mm,
which should give you some idea when you need to start thinking about
replacement. Best-case scenario sees you down to the steel about 33,000
miles from now.


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Old 30 May 2013, 09:59 pm
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
wrote:

>William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote in news:ko89ol$8i4$1
>@news.albasani.net:
>
>> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
>> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
>> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
>> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>>
>> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
>>
>>

>
>
>
>It's normal. The rear brakes supply so little braking effort that it's
>difficult to bring them up to temperature unless the pads are small and
>soft.
>
>The pads start out at 7mm with the wear-sensor at about 2mm away from the
>backing, so you're down 4mm.from new. That's roughly 11,000 miles per mm,
>which should give you some idea when you need to start thinking about
>replacement. Best-case scenario sees you down to the steel about 33,000
>miles from now.


For a couple of years Honda Accords had little tiny rear brakes that
somehow managed to wear out really fast. '07 might have still been in
that range. By 2010 they'd fixed it.

J.

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Old 30 May 2013, 11:34 pm
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On 5/30/2013 2:36 PM, William Munny wrote:
> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>
> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out
> first?


My mechanic, when asked, advised that that USED to be the common wisdom,
but that it applied to the old Front Disk, Rear Drum system. His
explanation was that with the all wheel disks and the better metering
systems in the brakes, they tend to wear more evenly front vs rear.

Any differential in wear would likely be the result of the variables
others (pad size, etc) have mentioned.

As others have commented, you don't need rear brakes yet. When they get
to the sensor is when you need to get them replaced. That's why they
HAVE a sensor<g>



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Old 31 May 2013, 10:44 am
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On 5/30/13 8:36 PM, Tegger wrote:
> William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote in news:ko89ol$8i4$1
> @news.albasani.net:
>
>> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
>> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
>> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
>> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>>
>> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
>>
>>

>
>
>
> It's normal. The rear brakes supply so little braking effort that it's
> difficult to bring them up to temperature unless the pads are small and
> soft.
>
> The pads start out at 7mm with the wear-sensor at about 2mm away from the
> backing, so you're down 4mm.from new. That's roughly 11,000 miles per mm,
> which should give you some idea when you need to start thinking about
> replacement. Best-case scenario sees you down to the steel about 33,000
> miles from now.
>
>


Thanks for your customary on-point, detailed, comprehensive, expert answer!

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Old 31 May 2013, 10:44 am
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On 5/30/13 3:36 PM, William Munny wrote:
> Took my '07 6 cyl Accord sedan with 45,000 relaxed suburban/highway
> driving miles to local dealer for routine oil change/multi-point
> inspection. He said my front brake pads were OK-- but the rears were
> getting close to the sensor (3mm).
>
> Isn't that a bit soon-- and don't front brakes usually wear out first?
>
>


Thanks all for the info...

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Old 31 May 2013, 12:51 pm
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William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote in
news:koacvp$p4e$1@news.albasani.net:

> On 5/30/13 8:36 PM, Tegger wrote:

..
>>
>> The pads start out at 7mm with the wear-sensor at about 2mm away from
>> the backing, so you're down 4mm.from new. That's roughly 11,000 miles
>> per mm, which should give you some idea when you need to start
>> thinking about replacement. Best-case scenario sees you down to the
>> steel about 33,000 miles from now.
>>
>>

>
> Thanks for your customary on-point, detailed, comprehensive, expert
> answer!
>



You're welcome. I would also add that you're likely to experience squealing
or squeaking noises from the rear brakes in about 11,000 miles. That will
be from the wear-warning tabs contacting the rotor. Hopefully the noise
drives you to get the work done before you damage the rotors with steel-on-
steel contact!


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