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Old 10 May 2013, 09:05 pm
William Munny
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Default Cabin Air Filter

Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
$10 on Ebay too.

Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
anything anyhow!



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Old 10 May 2013, 09:52 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: Cabin Air Filter

In article <kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net>,
William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote:

> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
> $10 on Ebay too.
>
> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
> anything anyhow!


Gee, all those years people drove cars without filters--it's a wonder
everyone on the planet isn't DEAD by now!
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Old 10 May 2013, 10:17 pm
Erik
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In article <elmop-DCF831.21522710052013@[78.46.70.116]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net>,
> William Munny <will@bigwhisky.net> wrote:
>
> > Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
> > well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
> > out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
> > $10 on Ebay too.
> >
> > Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
> > cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
> > anything anyhow!

>
> Gee, all those years people drove cars without filters--it's a wonder
> everyone on the planet isn't DEAD by now!


I concur... personally I think their primary purpose is to generate an
additional revenue stream.

Erik
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Old 10 May 2013, 10:59 pm
jim beam
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Default Re: Cabin Air Filter

On 05/10/2013 06:05 PM, William Munny wrote:
> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
> $10 on Ebay too.
>
> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
> anything anyhow!


indeed.

the only [and the real] reason it's there is to keep the a/c condenser
clean of the detritus that typically builds up in moist a/c evaporators
- which is responsible for the stink those things always used to have.


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Old 11 May 2013, 02:15 am
JRStern
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 19:59:34 -0700, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 05/10/2013 06:05 PM, William Munny wrote:
>> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
>> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
>> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
>> $10 on Ebay too.
>>
>> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
>> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
>> anything anyhow!

>
>indeed.
>
>the only [and the real] reason it's there is to keep the a/c condenser
>clean of the detritus that typically builds up in moist a/c evaporators
>- which is responsible for the stink those things always used to have.


I didn't know that.

I'm surprised it works, which I guess it mostly does.

J.

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Old 11 May 2013, 08:51 am
Dave
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If you ride with the window open, why is the ventilation system on? I tendto use the auto-AC a lot (wife has allergies) and when I change the filteryearly, it is generally full of junk - pollen, dust, pieces of leaves, etc.. I would rather have that stuff caught in a filter rather than deposited in the air ducts. To answer an early question, I have never seen any difference between $10 and $20 filters, have used them both.
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Old 11 May 2013, 09:22 am
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Default Re: Cabin Air Filter



"William Munny" wrote in message news:kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net...

Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
$10 on Ebay too.

Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
anything anyhow!

Better have the dealer do it otherwise they will claim it is dirty which
they can do without even looking at it. I just had a service at 103k miles
where the mechanic stated I needed to have my sparkplugs replaced on my 06
I4 Accord because they were in "poor condition" -- even though they had
changed them just 5000, miles earlier at 98k miles. I guess they have some
sort of intuition or magical ability to make such a determination.



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Old 11 May 2013, 02:16 pm
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Default Re: Cabin Air Filter

On 05/11/2013 06:22 AM, tww1491 wrote:
>
>
> "William Munny" wrote in message news:kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
> $10 on Ebay too.
>
> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
> anything anyhow!
>
> Better have the dealer do it otherwise they will claim it is dirty which
> they can do without even looking at it. I just had a service at 103k
> miles where the mechanic stated I needed to have my sparkplugs replaced
> on my 06 I4 Accord because they were in "poor condition" -- even though
> they had changed them just 5000, miles earlier at 98k miles. I guess
> they have some sort of intuition or magical ability to make such a
> determination.


friend of mine just got charged for a power steering belt as part of a
service. his vehicle doesn't even have one. as you may guess, yes,
this operator also charged for a bunch of stuff he never touched.


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Old 12 May 2013, 07:54 am
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"jim beam" wrote in message news:kmm1m3$cvi$2@dont-email.me...

On 05/11/2013 06:22 AM, tww1491 wrote:
>
>
> "William Munny" wrote in message news:kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net...
>
> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
> $10 on Ebay too.
>
> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
> anything anyhow!
>
> Better have the dealer do it otherwise they will claim it is dirty which
> they can do without even looking at it. I just had a service at 103k
> miles where the mechanic stated I needed to have my sparkplugs replaced
> on my 06 I4 Accord because they were in "poor condition" -- even though
> they had changed them just 5000, miles earlier at 98k miles. I guess
> they have some sort of intuition or magical ability to make such a
> determination.


friend of mine just got charged for a power steering belt as part of a
service. his vehicle doesn't even have one. as you may guess, yes,
this operator also charged for a bunch of stuff he never touched.

You absolutely have to watch them. They will also continue to tell me that
my filters a dirty (without checking them) after I have changed them myself.


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Old 12 May 2013, 06:32 pm
Geoff Welsh
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Default Re: Cabin Air Filter

tww1491 wrote:
>
>
> "jim beam" wrote in message news:kmm1m3$cvi$2@dont-email.me...
>
> On 05/11/2013 06:22 AM, tww1491 wrote:
>>
>>
>> "William Munny" wrote in message news:kmk5hj$7lu$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Not sure whether to splurge for the OEM filter from the local dealer for
>> well over $20; spend just under $20 for a Fram or NAPA Gold; or cheap
>> out at $10 for the plain vanilla NAPA base model. Lots of them for under
>> $10 on Ebay too.
>>
>> Is carbon/charcoal/baking soda-impregnated filter media worth the extra
>> cost? I mean, if you ride with the window open, the filter doesn't do
>> anything anyhow!
>>
>> Better have the dealer do it otherwise they will claim it is dirty which
>> they can do without even looking at it. I just had a service at 103k
>> miles where the mechanic stated I needed to have my sparkplugs replaced
>> on my 06 I4 Accord because they were in "poor condition" -- even though
>> they had changed them just 5000, miles earlier at 98k miles. I guess
>> they have some sort of intuition or magical ability to make such a
>> determination.

>
> friend of mine just got charged for a power steering belt as part of a
> service. his vehicle doesn't even have one. as you may guess, yes,
> this operator also charged for a bunch of stuff he never touched.
>
> You absolutely have to watch them. They will also continue to tell me
> that my filters a dirty (without checking them) after I have changed
> them myself.
>


Wow, that's the exact opposite of the shop where I used to work. I
would see cracked & frayed belts, black air filters, grooved brake
rotors, brown coolant, useless radiator caps, and Valdez-like oil leaks,
but the customer would say they had no money, and the poor car would go
out the door one day closer to death. (with brand new oil to leak all
over the environment....but the car had a "save the whales bumper
sticker" ?!!)

GW
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