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Old 18 Feb 2013, 07:39 pm
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Default Automotive fiberoptic scope?

I've been wondering if there existed an automotive version of the
colonoscopy scope instrument. ;-) I could see some usefulness in it,
such as inspecting the inside of the cylinder chambers through the spark
plug hole, or even the inside of the fuel tank, though that could be
dangerous due to the chance of explosion from a spark. Do mechanics use
such scopes at all?
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Old 18 Feb 2013, 08:17 pm
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Default Re: Automotive fiberoptic scope?

In article <kfuhi7$2ia$1@dont-email.me>, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
wrote:

> I've been wondering if there existed an automotive version of the
> colonoscopy scope instrument. ;-) I could see some usefulness in it,
> such as inspecting the inside of the cylinder chambers through the spark
> plug hole, or even the inside of the fuel tank, though that could be
> dangerous due to the chance of explosion from a spark. Do mechanics use
> such scopes at all?



Yes, they can even be had from Harbor Freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/high-re...tion-camera-wi
th-recorder-67980.html

But better ones are available...

Before digital camera's, Borescopes (often called Boroscopes) were the
thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boroscope

But they were big, cost megabucks and delicate... and got more use doing
things like inspections of airline/military gas turbine 'hot sections'
and/or similar industrial work.

Erik
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Old 18 Feb 2013, 11:20 pm
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Default Re: Automotive fiberoptic scope?

On 2/18/2013 5:17 PM, Erik wrote:
> In article <kfuhi7$2ia$1@dont-email.me>, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> I've been wondering if there existed an automotive version of the
>> colonoscopy scope instrument. ;-) I could see some usefulness in it,
>> such as inspecting the inside of the cylinder chambers through the spark
>> plug hole, or even the inside of the fuel tank, though that could be
>> dangerous due to the chance of explosion from a spark. Do mechanics use
>> such scopes at all?

>
>
> Yes, they can even be had from Harbor Freight:
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/high-re...tion-camera-wi
> th-recorder-67980.html
>
> But better ones are available...
>
> Before digital camera's, Borescopes (often called Boroscopes) were the
> thing:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boroscope
>
> But they were big, cost megabucks and delicate... and got more use doing
> things like inspections of airline/military gas turbine 'hot sections'
> and/or similar industrial work.
>
> Erik
>

Thanks. I haven't seen or heard about these things being used by
mechanics, but next time I'll ask them. I wonder though how spark-proof
are these things to use them in fuel tanks. Well, I guess the same
danger exists in colonoscopy, too. Plenty of gas there.
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Old 19 Feb 2013, 07:45 am
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Default Re: Automotive fiberoptic scope?

In article <kfuugg$o1o$1@dont-email.me>, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2/18/2013 5:17 PM, Erik wrote:
> > In article <kfuhi7$2ia$1@dont-email.me>, cameo <cameo@unreal.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've been wondering if there existed an automotive version of the
> >> colonoscopy scope instrument. ;-) I could see some usefulness in it,
> >> such as inspecting the inside of the cylinder chambers through the spark
> >> plug hole, or even the inside of the fuel tank, though that could be
> >> dangerous due to the chance of explosion from a spark. Do mechanics use
> >> such scopes at all?

> >
> >
> > Yes, they can even be had from Harbor Freight:
> >
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/high-re...tion-camera-wi
> > th-recorder-67980.html
> >
> > But better ones are available...
> >
> > Before digital camera's, Borescopes (often called Boroscopes) were the
> > thing:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boroscope
> >
> > But they were big, cost megabucks and delicate... and got more use doing
> > things like inspections of airline/military gas turbine 'hot sections'
> > and/or similar industrial work.
> >
> > Erik
> >

> Thanks. I haven't seen or heard about these things being used by
> mechanics, but next time I'll ask them. I wonder though how spark-proof
> are these things to use them in fuel tanks. Well, I guess the same
> danger exists in colonoscopy, too. Plenty of gas there.


Far as automotive shops go, don't know how wide spread their use is.
Probably limited at best.

For looking in fuel tanks... there wouldn't be much to see in there
anyway. A bad fuel pump looks just like a good one, plus illuminating &
navigating around in such a large space would be a challenge.

These things still mostly see use on equipment designed for their use...
like heavy industrial & aerospace applications.

However, for years now plumbers have been using a variation of them for
sewer line inspections.

Have heard the law enforcement industry (and related little cloak/dagger
outfits) now have & use a variety of similar specialized camera's.

Erik
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Old 19 Feb 2013, 07:02 pm
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Default Re: Automotive fiberoptic scope?


"cameo" <cameo@unreal.invalid> wrote in message
news:kfuugg$o1o$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2/18/2013 5:17 PM, Erik wrote:
>> In article <kfuhi7$2ia$1@dont-email.me>, cameo
>> <cameo@unreal.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been wondering if there existed an automotive version of the
>>> colonoscopy scope instrument. ;-) I could see some usefulness in
>>> it,
>>> such as inspecting the inside of the cylinder chambers through the
>>> spark
>>> plug hole, or even the inside of the fuel tank, though that could
>>> be
>>> dangerous due to the chance of explosion from a spark. Do
>>> mechanics use
>>> such scopes at all?

>>
>>
>> Yes, they can even be had from Harbor Freight:
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/high-re...tion-camera-wi
>> th-recorder-67980.html
>>
>> But better ones are available...
>>
>> Before digital camera's, Borescopes (often called Boroscopes) were
>> the
>> thing:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boroscope
>>
>> But they were big, cost megabucks and delicate... and got more use
>> doing
>> things like inspections of airline/military gas turbine 'hot
>> sections'
>> and/or similar industrial work.
>>
>> Erik
>>

> Thanks. I haven't seen or heard about these things being used by
> mechanics, but next time I'll ask them. I wonder though how
> spark-proof are these things to use them in fuel tanks. Well, I
> guess the same danger exists in colonoscopy, too. Plenty of gas
> there.


I use these frequently to inspect the inside of extruder barrels.
Much easier than dis-assembly just to inspect.


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Old 19 Feb 2013, 08:32 pm
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Default Re: Automotive fiberoptic scope?

On 2/19/2013 4:45 AM, Erik wrote:
> Far as automotive shops go, don't know how wide spread their use is.
> Probably limited at best.
>
> For looking in fuel tanks... there wouldn't be much to see in there
> anyway. A bad fuel pump looks just like a good one, plus illuminating &
> navigating around in such a large space would be a challenge.


I was thinking of seeing how much dirt or rus may be deposited there
over the years.

> These things still mostly see use on equipment designed for their use...
> like heavy industrial & aerospace applications.
>
> However, for years now plumbers have been using a variation of them for
> sewer line inspections.


I've had one of those inspections ones in an underground rain water pipe
when the downspout was filling up. Turned out that some tree roots
clogged it.

> Have heard the law enforcement industry (and related little cloak/dagger
> outfits) now have & use a variety of similar specialized camera's.


Yes, I've seen that in movies as they snaked those things under doors
before storming in.


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