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Old 19 Dec 2012, 01:20 am
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:11:57 -0800 (PST), Michael
<michael.muderick@gmail.com> wrote:

>Honda wants about $100 to polish/restore the headlight lenses on my
>2000 Accord. I find kits ranging in price from $10-$40. Are they
>all the same? Any recommendations as to which is good/bad? TIA


I've used both 3M and Meguiar's on a 2001 Accord. Takes an awful lot
of buffing and is hard to get an even job. It might be worth $100 to
have someone else do it.
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Old 19 Dec 2012, 01:46 am
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In article <p3n2d81bvd2vqbe0n2u5k0d1d3fdqffghd@4ax.com>,
Flatlander <flatlander47@cox.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:11:57 -0800 (PST), Michael
> <michael.muderick@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Honda wants about $100 to polish/restore the headlight lenses on my
> >2000 Accord. I find kits ranging in price from $10-$40. Are they
> >all the same? Any recommendations as to which is good/bad? TIA

>
> I've used both 3M and Meguiar's on a 2001 Accord. Takes an awful lot
> of buffing and is hard to get an even job. It might be worth $100 to
> have someone else do it.


YouTube has a bunch of headlight lens restoration videos... I've
personally never done any, but it sure doesn't look like rocket science.

Erik
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Old 19 Dec 2012, 11:37 am
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:20:52 -0600, Flatlander <flatlander47@cox.net>
wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:11:57 -0800 (PST), Michael
><michael.muderick@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Honda wants about $100 to polish/restore the headlight lenses on my
>>2000 Accord. I find kits ranging in price from $10-$40. Are they
>>all the same? Any recommendations as to which is good/bad? TIA

>
>I've used both 3M and Meguiar's on a 2001 Accord. Takes an awful lot
>of buffing and is hard to get an even job. It might be worth $100 to
>have someone else do it.


And it still may not come out perfect.

I haven't done these but back in the day I polished various plastic
widgets, and it's not rocket science but I guess it would help to have
the right kind of rigs and maybe the experience of doing fifty others.

J.


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Old 21 Dec 2012, 05:13 pm
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 08:37:08 -0800, JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:20:52 -0600, Flatlander <flatlander47@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 06:11:57 -0800 (PST), Michael
>><michael.muderick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Honda wants about $100 to polish/restore the headlight lenses on my
>>>2000 Accord. I find kits ranging in price from $10-$40. Are they
>>>all the same? Any recommendations as to which is good/bad? TIA

>>
>>I've used both 3M and Meguiar's on a 2001 Accord. Takes an awful lot
>>of buffing and is hard to get an even job. It might be worth $100 to
>>have someone else do it.

>
>And it still may not come out perfect.
>
>I haven't done these but back in the day I polished various plastic
>widgets, and it's not rocket science but I guess it would help to have
>the right kind of rigs and maybe the experience of doing fifty others.
>
>J.
>



On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise <g>.
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Old 21 Dec 2012, 08:06 pm
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer <observer@void.com>
wrote:

>On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise <g>.


I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
something, what about your paint?

J.

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Old 21 Dec 2012, 08:29 pm
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JRStern wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer <observer@void.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>>out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>>to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise <g>.

>
> I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
> something, what about your paint?


The plastic degrades rapidly in the presence of sunlight and air. The
original lens had a thin protective coating. Once that coating
deteriorated, the lens became cloudy. Better headlight cleanup kits include
a coating for protection, it just does not last long.

Glass can last decades without discoloring or becoming cloudy.



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Old 21 Dec 2012, 09:39 pm
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On 12/21/2012 05:29 PM, Rasco Coltrain wrote:
> JRStern wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer<observer@void.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>>> out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>>> to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise<g>.

>>
>> I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
>> something, what about your paint?

>
> The plastic degrades rapidly in the presence of sunlight and air. The
> original lens had a thin protective coating. Once that coating
> deteriorated, the lens became cloudy. Better headlight cleanup kits include
> a coating for protection, it just does not last long.
>
> Glass can last decades without discoloring or becoming cloudy.


so can the plastic lenses used for turn signals, etc. - the technology
is well researched and easy to implement. headlights cloud because
detroit wants consumers to take it up the ass and for no other reason.


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Old 22 Dec 2012, 12:29 pm
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:39:26 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 12/21/2012 05:29 PM, Rasco Coltrain wrote:
>> JRStern wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer<observer@void.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>>>> out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>>>> to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise<g>.
>>>
>>> I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
>>> something, what about your paint?

>>
>> The plastic degrades rapidly in the presence of sunlight and air. The
>> original lens had a thin protective coating. Once that coating
>> deteriorated, the lens became cloudy. Better headlight cleanup kits include
>> a coating for protection, it just does not last long.
>>
>> Glass can last decades without discoloring or becoming cloudy.

>
>so can the plastic lenses used for turn signals, etc. - the technology
>is well researched and easy to implement. headlights cloud because
>detroit wants consumers to take it up the ass and for no other reason.


I still don't get it, if the plastic clouds, is polishing it going to
help, is the clouding really just on the surface? I haven't seen that
in any car I've owned (cuz I've been leasing for a long time). I've
seen old yellowed lights on whatever, but never thought about it, I
did associate it with overage Detroit products, now that you mention
it, and maybe bronze age British stuff and miscellaneous tail lights
and whatnot. So, don't scratch the Lexan, huh?

J.

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Old 22 Dec 2012, 10:28 pm
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JRStern wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:39:26 -0800, jim beam <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>On 12/21/2012 05:29 PM, Rasco Coltrain wrote:
>>> JRStern wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer<observer@void.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>>>>> out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>>>>> to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise<g>.
>>>>
>>>> I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
>>>> something, what about your paint?
>>>
>>> The plastic degrades rapidly in the presence of sunlight and air. The
>>> original lens had a thin protective coating. Once that coating
>>> deteriorated, the lens became cloudy. Better headlight cleanup kits
>>> include a coating for protection, it just does not last long.
>>>
>>> Glass can last decades without discoloring or becoming cloudy.

>>
>>so can the plastic lenses used for turn signals, etc. - the technology
>>is well researched and easy to implement. headlights cloud because
>>detroit wants consumers to take it up the ass and for no other reason.

>
> I still don't get it, if the plastic clouds, is polishing it going to
> help, is the clouding really just on the surface? I haven't seen that
> in any car I've owned (cuz I've been leasing for a long time). I've
> seen old yellowed lights on whatever, but never thought about it, I
> did associate it with overage Detroit products, now that you mention
> it, and maybe bronze age British stuff and miscellaneous tail lights
> and whatnot. So, don't scratch the Lexan, huh?


The plastic oxides on the surface; Bon Ami removes the oxidized plastic.
Applying some silicone (read: Pledge or Turtle Wax) might help protect the
surface.

IIRC, the last 20 year old vehicle I had, had perfectly fine backup lights
(which are clear, just like headlights). I never gave that a second thought
until jim mentioned it.

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Old 23 Dec 2012, 12:33 am
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On 12/22/2012 09:29 AM, JRStern wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:39:26 -0800, jim beam<me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2012 05:29 PM, Rasco Coltrain wrote:
>>> JRStern wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:13:31 -0600, Observer<observer@void.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On my 2003, I've used just Bonami with my elbow grease and it comes
>>>>> out pretty good. It doesn't last too long but for me, it's like a 5
>>>>> to 10 minute job and cheap. Also I get a little exercise<g>.
>>>>
>>>> I don't get how it doesn't last, are you getting sandblasted or
>>>> something, what about your paint?
>>>
>>> The plastic degrades rapidly in the presence of sunlight and air. The
>>> original lens had a thin protective coating. Once that coating
>>> deteriorated, the lens became cloudy. Better headlight cleanup kits include
>>> a coating for protection, it just does not last long.
>>>
>>> Glass can last decades without discoloring or becoming cloudy.

>>
>> so can the plastic lenses used for turn signals, etc. - the technology
>> is well researched and easy to implement. headlights cloud because
>> detroit wants consumers to take it up the ass and for no other reason.

>
> I still don't get it, if the plastic clouds, is polishing it going to
> help, is the clouding really just on the surface?


yes and yes.


> I haven't seen that
> in any car I've owned (cuz I've been leasing for a long time). I've
> seen old yellowed lights on whatever, but never thought about it, I
> did associate it with overage Detroit products, now that you mention
> it, and maybe bronze age British stuff and miscellaneous tail lights
> and whatnot. So, don't scratch the Lexan, huh?


it's on all the modern cars. there's a federal headlight spec requiring
cars sold here to have a specific type of polymer for the lens, and it
doesn't have u.v. protectant. if you can believe it.


>
> J.
>



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