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Old 04 Nov 2012, 12:08 pm
jim beam
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

On 11/04/2012 02:55 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<k76rqs$efj$1@news.albasani.net>,
> "Douglas C. Neidermeyer"<sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:
>
>>> That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.
>>> As the battery weakens, so does the range at which the transmitter
>>> operates.
>>>
>>> Wow. I have a Toyota from 2007, and the factory battery is still in the
>>> transmitter and still works great. Looks like Honda found the lowest
>>> Chinese bidder for transmitter batteries. I guess every tenth of a cent
>>> counts.
>>>

>>
>> Don't you ever have anything positive, much less informative, to say
>> about Honda?

>
> I believe I did. Read again.
>
> That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.
>
> That's quite positive. It's nice that even the Civic comes with some
> nice amenities.
>
> I also compared this dude's battery going bad after 3 years to the
> comparable Toyota battery still going strong at 6 years. I'm positive
> that shows Honda is down to cutting corners in the batteries they put in
> their remote transmistters.
>
> I'm also positive that if they're cutting corners there, much bigger
> things are going on under the sheet metal.
>
> (Of course, I'm positive of that also because I know a Honda test
> engineer who mourns for the loss of the old Honda he knew when he went
> there in the first place. If you want a chance at getting what you knew
> Honda to be, buy Acura. But shop carefully.)


acura. pah. you get either an over-expensive behemoth, or an
over-expensive civic that doesn't even drive like a civic used to. i
don't call that much of an alternative.


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Old 04 Nov 2012, 01:16 pm
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Default ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

I'm not going to disclaim my own ignorance about ignition keys, so I'll just go ahead with my question: Is there a battery in the ignition key for a 2010 Honda Civic? The reason I'm asking is that it seems to progressively get more difficult to unlock the door with my ignition key.
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Old 04 Nov 2012, 02:40 pm
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

In article <01e3951f-41a3-4641-b745-85bd61a1c136@googlegroups.com>,
Ivory123 <pkeys2009@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not going to disclaim my own ignorance about ignition keys, so I'll just
> go ahead with my question: Is there a battery in the ignition key for a 2010
> Honda Civic? The reason I'm asking is that it seems to progressively get
> more difficult to unlock the door with my ignition key.


Oh, do you have a key with remote lock/unlock buttons physically on the
key itself?

That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.
As the battery weakens, so does the range at which the transmitter
operates.

Wow. I have a Toyota from 2007, and the factory battery is still in the
transmitter and still works great. Looks like Honda found the lowest
Chinese bidder for transmitter batteries. I guess every tenth of a cent
counts.
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Old 04 Nov 2012, 04:55 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

In article <k76rqs$efj$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> wrote:

> > That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.
> > As the battery weakens, so does the range at which the transmitter
> > operates.
> >
> > Wow. I have a Toyota from 2007, and the factory battery is still in the
> > transmitter and still works great. Looks like Honda found the lowest
> > Chinese bidder for transmitter batteries. I guess every tenth of a cent
> > counts.
> >

>
> Don't you ever have anything positive, much less informative, to say
> about Honda?


I believe I did. Read again.

That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.

That's quite positive. It's nice that even the Civic comes with some
nice amenities.

I also compared this dude's battery going bad after 3 years to the
comparable Toyota battery still going strong at 6 years. I'm positive
that shows Honda is down to cutting corners in the batteries they put in
their remote transmistters.

I'm also positive that if they're cutting corners there, much bigger
things are going on under the sheet metal.

(Of course, I'm positive of that also because I know a Honda test
engineer who mourns for the loss of the old Honda he knew when he went
there in the first place. If you want a chance at getting what you knew
Honda to be, buy Acura. But shop carefully.)
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Old 04 Nov 2012, 04:56 pm
Douglas C. Neidermeyer
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

On 11/4/12 3:40 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <01e3951f-41a3-4641-b745-85bd61a1c136@googlegroups.com>,
> Ivory123 <pkeys2009@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not going to disclaim my own ignorance about ignition keys, so I'll just
>> go ahead with my question: Is there a battery in the ignition key for a 2010
>> Honda Civic? The reason I'm asking is that it seems to progressively get
>> more difficult to unlock the door with my ignition key.

>
> Oh, do you have a key with remote lock/unlock buttons physically on the
> key itself?
>
> That's a radio transmitter, and yes, it requires a battery to operate.
> As the battery weakens, so does the range at which the transmitter
> operates.
>
> Wow. I have a Toyota from 2007, and the factory battery is still in the
> transmitter and still works great. Looks like Honda found the lowest
> Chinese bidder for transmitter batteries. I guess every tenth of a cent
> counts.
>


Don't you ever have anything positive, much less informative, to say
about Honda? You seem singularly focused on poor-mouthing them and
running them down every time you post...

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Old 05 Nov 2012, 04:21 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

In article <k77af3$1ln$1@dont-email.me>, jim beam <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

> > (Of course, I'm positive of that also because I know a Honda test
> > engineer who mourns for the loss of the old Honda he knew when he went
> > there in the first place. If you want a chance at getting what you knew
> > Honda to be, buy Acura. But shop carefully.)

>
> acura. pah. you get either an over-expensive behemoth, or an
> over-expensive civic that doesn't even drive like a civic used to. i
> don't call that much of an alternative.


Like I said, shop carefully. Not all Acura products are behemoths or
the equivalent of the Cadillac Cimarron. (Well, maybe it's getting
worse...)

What it comes down to is, you have to pay a significantly higher chunk
of change even for the chance to get the quality that Honda was known
for in the past.
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Old 05 Nov 2012, 01:22 pm
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Default Re: ignitions keys for 2010 Honda Civic

On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:16:51 -0800 (PST), Ivory123
<pkeys2009@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm not going to disclaim my own ignorance about ignition keys,
>so I'll just go ahead with my question: Is there a battery in the
>ignition key for a 2010 Honda Civic? The reason I'm asking is that
>it seems to progressively get more difficult to unlock the door
>with my ignition key.


My 2010 Accord had one of those "smart" keys, and never really worked
right, had a sticky button that got stickier. The second key I kept
in a desk, the battery died in under three years when never used!

I think even if the battery dies and the buttons seize up, you can
still use the key as a key - but I'm not certain.

I've also heard that the dealer charges up the wazoo to replace the
battery, not sure if you can do it yourself (I suppose it must be
possible, but there might be some trick involved).

--

My 2013 EXL has no key at all, just a magic fob, God knows how it
works, probably involves irradiating my nads or all passers-by or
both.

J.


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