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Old 29 Oct 2012, 06:38 pm
JRStern
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Default 2013 Accord EXL front collision warning and lane drift warning

.... in short, not ready for prime time.

There are two kinds of errors such systems can make:

* Type 1: goes off when it shouldn't
* Type 2: fails to go off when it should

The lane drift warning has trouble with shadows, with curves, with tar
strips running along the lane, with narrow lanes. It sometimes goes
off (just a modest "beep beep beep") and you look up and wonder,
"huh?" One a drive up PCH a few weeks ago it kept going off for one
or another reason.

It also goes off if you cross out of a lane without signaling - or it
should. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it isn't
supposed to fire under 30mph or so, so you can wander across an empty
parking lot without a lot of pointless beeping.

I've only had the collision avoidance go on about three times now.
The first two were both where a truck was blocking a left lane, and I
had to approach and then change lanes to the right. The latest was
when the car in front of me hit the brakes. In all three of these
instances my foot was on the way to the brake when the alert goes off
"a louder beep-beep-beep and some yellow warning lights". In these
situations it was not useful. It could give a pre-warning a second
earlier, or else it should wait half a second longer to see if there's
really a problem. It seems to be in these three instances, it was
just not properly calibrated - or not properly designed.

Now, in NONE of these situations was I snoozing at the wheel and
looking for a useful reminder. I haven't had any such experiences
yet, since driving the car only about two week so far. Of course just
one of those, will pay for a lot of irritating misfires.

But at least so far, I would not recommend anyone upgrade to the EXL
hoping that these features will prove really useful rather than, say,
something between irritating and amusing.

J.

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Old 29 Oct 2012, 09:17 pm
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Default Re: 2013 Accord EXL front collision warning and lane drift warning

In article <3r4u88pvavgbusrfphh3hmm86j6afq5u71@4ax.com>,
JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote:

> ... in short, not ready for prime time.
>
> There are two kinds of errors such systems can make:
>
> * Type 1: goes off when it shouldn't
> * Type 2: fails to go off when it should
>
> The lane drift warning has trouble with shadows, with curves, with tar
> strips running along the lane, with narrow lanes. It sometimes goes
> off (just a modest "beep beep beep") and you look up and wonder,
> "huh?" One a drive up PCH a few weeks ago it kept going off for one
> or another reason.
>
> It also goes off if you cross out of a lane without signaling - or it
> should. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it isn't
> supposed to fire under 30mph or so, so you can wander across an empty
> parking lot without a lot of pointless beeping.
>
> I've only had the collision avoidance go on about three times now.
> The first two were both where a truck was blocking a left lane, and I
> had to approach and then change lanes to the right. The latest was
> when the car in front of me hit the brakes. In all three of these
> instances my foot was on the way to the brake when the alert goes off
> "a louder beep-beep-beep and some yellow warning lights". In these
> situations it was not useful. It could give a pre-warning a second
> earlier, or else it should wait half a second longer to see if there's
> really a problem. It seems to be in these three instances, it was
> just not properly calibrated - or not properly designed.
>
> Now, in NONE of these situations was I snoozing at the wheel and
> looking for a useful reminder. I haven't had any such experiences
> yet, since driving the car only about two week so far. Of course just
> one of those, will pay for a lot of irritating misfires.
>
> But at least so far, I would not recommend anyone upgrade to the EXL
> hoping that these features will prove really useful rather than, say,
> something between irritating and amusing.
>
> J.


so, in other words Google won't be using Accords for self-driving cars
for quite awhile.
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 11:27 pm
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Default Re: 2013 Accord EXL front collision warning and lane drift warning

On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:17:37 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>so, in other words Google won't be using Accords for self-driving cars
>for quite awhile.


I hope Asimo is smarter.

J.

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Old 30 Oct 2012, 08:25 am
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Default Re: 2013 Accord EXL front collision warning and lane drift warning

JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in
news:3r4u88pvavgbusrfphh3hmm86j6afq5u71@4ax.com:

> ... in short, not ready for prime time.
>
> There are two kinds of errors such systems can make:
>
> * Type 1: goes off when it shouldn't
> * Type 2: fails to go off when it should




The upshot: The only true "safety" device is still...your own brain.



--
Tegger
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Old 30 Oct 2012, 10:55 am
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Default Re: 2013 Accord EXL front collision warning and lane drift warning

On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:25:16 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <invalid@example.com>
wrote:

>JRStern <JRStern@foobar.invalid> wrote in
>news:3r4u88pvavgbusrfphh3hmm86j6afq5u71@4ax.com :
>
>> ... in short, not ready for prime time.
>>
>> There are two kinds of errors such systems can make:
>>
>> * Type 1: goes off when it shouldn't
>> * Type 2: fails to go off when it should

>
>
>
>The upshot: The only true "safety" device is still...your own brain.


For now.

Self-driving vehicles are on the horizon, ten to twenty years out is
my guess. May be seriously expensive for the first few years. May be
the overwhelming standard by thirty years out, driving manually really
*will* be a privilege!

J.


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Old 30 Oct 2012, 02:46 pm
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"JRStern" wrote in message
news:3r4u88pvavgbusrfphh3hmm86j6afq5u71@4ax.com...

.... in short, not ready for prime time.

There are two kinds of errors such systems can make:

* Type 1: goes off when it shouldn't
* Type 2: fails to go off when it should

The lane drift warning has trouble with shadows, with curves, with tar
strips running along the lane, with narrow lanes. It sometimes goes
off (just a modest "beep beep beep") and you look up and wonder,
"huh?" One a drive up PCH a few weeks ago it kept going off for one
or another reason.

It also goes off if you cross out of a lane without signaling - or it
should. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it isn't
supposed to fire under 30mph or so, so you can wander across an empty
parking lot without a lot of pointless beeping.

I've only had the collision avoidance go on about three times now.
The first two were both where a truck was blocking a left lane, and I
had to approach and then change lanes to the right. The latest was
when the car in front of me hit the brakes. In all three of these
instances my foot was on the way to the brake when the alert goes off
"a louder beep-beep-beep and some yellow warning lights". In these
situations it was not useful. It could give a pre-warning a second
earlier, or else it should wait half a second longer to see if there's
really a problem. It seems to be in these three instances, it was
just not properly calibrated - or not properly designed.

Now, in NONE of these situations was I snoozing at the wheel and
looking for a useful reminder. I haven't had any such experiences
yet, since driving the car only about two week so far. Of course just
one of those, will pay for a lot of irritating misfires.

But at least so far, I would not recommend anyone upgrade to the EXL
hoping that these features will prove really useful rather than, say,
something between irritating and amusing.

J.
Very useful for those who text while driving.

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Old 30 Oct 2012, 04:56 pm
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:46:58 -0400, "tww1491" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:

>Very useful for those who text while driving.


Yah they could put a numeric keypad in the middle of the steering
wheel, right over the air bag, and in keeping with the hands-free
theme you could work it with your nose.

J.


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