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Old 29 Jul 2007, 05:13 pm
Firebird
 
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Default What is "Drive by Wire" technology

I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end of
season 2007-SE.
I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And is
it good?
Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.

How are the 07's. still well made????

Thanks

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Old 29 Jul 2007, 05:36 pm
Art
 
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Default Re: What is "Drive by Wire" technology

Instead of the gas pedal directly increasing and decreasing the flow of
gasoline, it is connected to the computer which then decreases in increases
the flow of gasoline. Advantage can be better performance and emissions.
Some people claim their engine hesistates though as the computer decideds
whether or not you are serious when you pound on the gas pedal.


"Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end
>of season 2007-SE.
> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And
> is it good?
> Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.
>
> How are the 07's. still well made????
>
> Thanks



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Old 29 Jul 2007, 05:39 pm
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Default Re: What is "Drive by Wire" technology

"Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46ad1115$0$3119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end
>of season 2007-SE.
> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And
> is it good?
> Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.
>
> How are the 07's. still well made????
>
> Thanks


Controlling things electrically rather than by tugging on a steel cable;
e.g. when you depress your gas pedal, it sends an electronic signal to the
fuel injectors to increase the fuel flow rather. In the old days, the gas
pedal was connected to the carburetor by that steel cable that always
stretched when you stomped on it repeatedly to go faster.


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Old 29 Jul 2007, 05:52 pm
jim beam
 
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Default Re: What is "Drive by Wire" technology

Slacker wrote:
> "Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46ad1115$0$3119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end
>> of season 2007-SE.
>> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And
>> is it good?
>> Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.
>>
>> How are the 07's. still well made????
>>
>> Thanks

>
> Controlling things electrically rather than by tugging on a steel cable;
> e.g. when you depress your gas pedal, it sends an electronic signal to the
> fuel injectors to increase the fuel flow rather. In the old days, the gas
> pedal was connected to the carburetor by that steel cable that always
> stretched when you stomped on it repeatedly to go faster.
>
>

art & slacker

in a fuel injected car, gas flow is /already/ controlled by the computer
- amount injected does not necessarily depend on throttle position.

a better definition is that the /throttle/ is controlled by electronic
signal rather than pedal linkage. that way, the computer decides air
flow as well as gas injection.

advantages include better economy and better shifting for automatics, as
well as easier implementation of cruise control. doesn't make a whole
heap of difference to the driver experience unless you have a sports car
with paddle shifters.
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Old 29 Jul 2007, 06:10 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: What is "Drive by Wire" technology

In article <46ad1115$0$3119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end of
> season 2007-SE.
> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And is
> it good?


The gas pedal is connected not to the engine, but to a computer. Your
foot is telling the computer what you want; the computer is telling the
engine what to do so that you get what you want.

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Old 30 Jul 2007, 12:26 pm
Brian Beuchaw
 
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Art <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Instead of the gas pedal directly increasing and decreasing the flow of
> gasoline, it is connected to the computer which then decreases in increases
> the flow of gasoline. Advantage can be better performance and emissions.
> Some people claim their engine hesistates though as the computer decideds
> whether or not you are serious when you pound on the gas pedal.


I've found this hesitation to be there on my 2007 Civic LX, FYI.
Annoying, but I suppose I can live with it.

brian
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Old 30 Jul 2007, 02:52 pm
Andy
 
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"Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46ad1115$0$3119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end
>of season 2007-SE.
> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And
> is it good?
> Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.
>
> How are the 07's. still well made????
>
> Thanks

No timing belt, I think it has a chain...don't have to worry about the
belt snapping, but I suppose the chain can go too!>


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Old 30 Jul 2007, 07:02 pm
JXStern
 
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:13:32 -0400, "Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com>
wrote:

>I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end of
>season 2007-SE.
>I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And is
>it good?
>Do the 2007's 2.4 4 cylinder engines perform better then the 02.
>
>How are the 07's. still well made????


Have not had or heard of any problems with the 07s, been driving the
EX4 since November, after driving a 2004 EX4 for three years. The
engine and suspension are both tuned a little differently, I seem to
be getting about 2mpg less on the 2007, but it has somewhat better
low-end response.

Great cars, they go right where you point them, no problems.

J.

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Old 31 Jul 2007, 08:03 am
Oldtech
 
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <46ad1115$0$3119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Firebird" <firebird@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end of
>> season 2007-SE.
>> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And is
>> it good?

>
> The gas pedal is connected not to the engine, but to a computer. Your
> foot is telling the computer what you want; the computer is telling the
> engine what to do so that you get what you want.
>

BUT, it runs Microsoft Windows CE, which is known among programmers to
have ~15 bugs per hundred lines of code.

Imagine trying to merge on the high speed interstate road, and the
computer gets a blue screen and needs to be reset!

Remember the Shanandoah, the US stealth ship, an, Arleigh Burke class
destroyer that was
stranded out to sea for three days waiting to be towed to port, because
of a software bug in the kernel that shut down the engines, even though
Microsoft programmers and engineers were aboard on trials, they
couldn't fix it!

Similar problems with British Class 45 ships...

Guys, switch to Linux! NASA proved it, when they switched! All robotic
missions run Linux! System updates can be done remotely, and have, for
all the Mars Rovers!
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Old 31 Jul 2007, 08:28 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: What is "Drive by Wire" technology

In article <46af3315$0$32538$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Oldtech <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> I have a 2002 Accord SE, we are thinking of trading in and getting an end
> >> of
> >> season 2007-SE.
> >> I noticed in the sales stuff, Drive by Wire technology. What is this? And
> >> is
> >> it good?

> >
> > The gas pedal is connected not to the engine, but to a computer. Your
> > foot is telling the computer what you want; the computer is telling the
> > engine what to do so that you get what you want.
> >

> BUT, it runs Microsoft Windows CE, which is known among programmers to
> have ~15 bugs per hundred lines of code.


No it doesn't.

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