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Old 04 Jul 2007, 01:54 pm
jim beam
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Default will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

from:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...tG1k8AcAms0NUE

we learn that:
"Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."

are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are you?
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Old 04 Jul 2007, 04:22 pm
Jim Yanik
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Default Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> from:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>
> we learn that:
> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during
> the same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small
> cars and the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>
> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little
> help.
> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know
> about
> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
> you?
>


I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

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Old 04 Jul 2007, 05:12 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.


I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
transmission at that market.

After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.

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Old 04 Jul 2007, 07:57 pm
Hachiroku ハチロク
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Default Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:22:48 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:

> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> from:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
>> 6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>>
>> we learn that:
>> "Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during the
>> same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small cars and
>> the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>>
>> are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
>> pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little help.
>> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know about
>> the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
>> civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
>> getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
>> you?
>>
>>

> I wish they would bring back the Prelude. Update it with LED turnsignals
> and taillights. Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.



I have a Supra (88) and a Scion tC (05)

The seating position in the Civic Si is the same as the Supra.
The seating position in the Scion is the same as Outback Steakhouse.

Wish I had bought the Civic...


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Old 04 Jul 2007, 08:24 pm
jim beam
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9963B0F137B4Bjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87>,
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
>
>> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
>> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
>> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
>> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.

>
> I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> transmission at that market.
>
> After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
>

in which case, why not just sell a prelude? nobody buys an accord if
they want something that is a little more fun. just like the crx was a
no-brainer body transplant from the civic, so should be the prelude.
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Old 04 Jul 2007, 10:16 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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In article <S6CdnX3Ol7PF1RHbnZ2dnUVZ_rS3nZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

> > I'm pretty sure they decided to aim the Accord coupe V6/manual
> > transmission at that market.
> >
> > After all, the 'lude was built on the Accord chassis.
> >

> in which case, why not just sell a prelude?


Ah, but you forget: the beancounters were in charge during that time.

It is cheaper to make the Accord than a model with different sheet metal
and interior.

They may yet bring back the 'lude, now that the engineers seem to be
back on the throne, but no doubt it's way down on their to-do list.

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Old 04 Jul 2007, 10:58 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:rLidnRUq8duZcBbbnZ2dnUVZ_tmknZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>
>>from:
>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070704/...s;_ylt=A0WTUZK
>>6DYtG1k8AcAms0NUE
>>
>>we learn that:
>>"Honda said it sold 140,935 vehicles in June, up from 126,449 during
>>the same month last year. Sales were led by the Civic and Fit small
>>cars and the CR-V small sport utility vehicle."
>>
>>are you listening honda usa "marketing" department? are you going to
>>pay attention this time? because your track record needs a little
>>help.
>> you didn't want to know about the crv. you didn't want to know
>> about
>>the fit [jazz]. and you have done everything you can to kill the
>>civic's backbone, the civic hatchback. anyone would think y'all were
>>getting backhanders from detroit or something. well, you're not are
>>you?
>>

>
>
> I wish they would bring back the Prelude.
> Update it with LED turnsignals and taillights.
> Right now,Honda/Acura does not make anything I would buy.
> I'd buy an old 00-01 Prelude before I'd buy any new Honda/Acura.
>


They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*. Toyota has done
the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
noses like American vehicles tend to have. One really wonders if they
realize who has been winning the sales wars the last 5 years, and who
has been losing...
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Old 04 Jul 2007, 11:54 pm
Joe LaVigne
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Default Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

mjc13 wrote:

>
> They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*. Toyota has done
> the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
> noses like American vehicles tend to have. One really wonders if they
> realize who has been winning the sales wars the last 5 years, and who
> has been losing...


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I *hated* the look of the hatchback civics. I like the look of the new
ones. The Si is a thing of beauty, IMO, and the rest of the line isn't
that much different.

Now, the Japanese Si Hatchback is a nice looking car, maintaining the new
style look, and making it a hatch. I would buy one of those in a second if
they were available here...

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Old 05 Jul 2007, 02:56 am
Bucky
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Default Re: will honda's usa "marketing" dept learn this lesson?

On Jul 4, 8:58 pm, "mjc13<REMOVETHIS>"
> They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*.


I think the current Civic is gorgeous, even better looking than
previous generation, which was also an improvement over the previous
generation before that.

> Toyota has done
> the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
> noses like American vehicles tend to have.


I do agree that Toyotas are pretty ugly.

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Old 05 Jul 2007, 04:23 am
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mjc13<REMOVETHIS> wrote:

> They've also managed to make the new Civics *ugly*. Toyota has done
> the same thing: given their cars unattractive, militaristic-looking
> noses like American vehicles tend to have. One really wonders if they
> realize who has been winning the sales wars the last 5 years, and who
> has been losing...


IMO, most manufacturers are making ugly cars now. Look at Nissan's
line-up... Yuck!!!
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