Honda Car Forum

a wrote:
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> In article <rEVii.28162$xk5.15548@edtnps82>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>>>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>> I believe him. I routinely got 33mpg with a '93 Accord automatic.
>>>
>>> Good for you - on road trips through the Swiss f-ing alps with the AC
>>> on? No?
>>
>>
>> It happened. Get over it.
>>
>> Why does it bother you that this happened?
>>
>
> Not bothered at all - I just think you're bending the truth.
>
> a



I'd guess that your brain has difficulty parsing fact...

JT

(Who's Civic FE gets 40+ mpg in the city..)

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <K2Xii.21782$tB5.20753@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>>It happened. Get over it.
>>>
>>>Why does it bother you that this happened?
>>>
>>
>>Not bothered at all - I just think you're bending the truth.
>
>
> I'm not.
>
> Why would you think I'm bending the truth? Do you have different
> experiences with a similar car?
>


You're wastin' your breath... He don't have no freakin' clue!

JT

In article <DgXii.21783$tB5.14771@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> > You, on the other hand, seem to insist that I'm lying. So either you
> > have your own experiences that so indicate, or else you're just an
> > asshole in general.
> >
> > Which would it be?
> >
>
> Until you prove it - I don't believe you - and since you can't prove it
> here...

On the other hand, you *can* prove that you're an asshole.

Not only *can* you, you *did*.

In article <WgXii.21784$tB5.9972@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> > Why would you think I'm bending the truth? Do you have different
> > experiences with a similar car?
> >
>
> Yes.

What's your experience?

Further, if you were one out of 30, for example, who had the bad
experience, would you insist that the 30 must be lying--because plainly
your experience is the norm, not an exception?

Why is the world supposed to accept YOUR experience as the norm?

I posted a single datum point: in that particular car, I got that
mileage. I make no claims otherwise. I don't insist that everyone else
is getting that.

You have a datum point--but you insist that yours is representative of
every similar car out there, bar none.

I let my datum point lie there as a number. Others will kick in with
their experiences. You are part of the others.

If your datum point lies statistically outside where the others lie,
well, statistics is a well known science.

In the meantime, let's all kick in with our experiences and let the
reader make up his own mind.

But for some reason, you're all bent out of shape at the idea that
others have different experiences than you have, and that the readers
here might not take your experience as the norm. Why does that bother
you, that someone reading this thread might come away thinking your
experience was the anomaly?

Please notice that no one here is calling you a liar--unlike you, who is
calling everyone else a liar. The reader will deduce from that what he
will. No doubt he will dismiss your datum point and move on.

a wrote:
> L Alpert wrote:
>> a wrote:
>>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog
>>>>> in terms of power...
>>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with
>>>> PLENTY of power.
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>
>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>
>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>>
>>> a
>>
>> Why is that? My '04 V6 gets a tad over 30MPG on the highway, and I'm
>> usually around 75MPH.......
>>
>>
>
> Again - "If my Auntie had bullocks, she'd be my Uncle!"
>
> WTF does your experience in a different car, different engine,
> different city different state, different country(?), different
> driving style, different fuel... have to do with his mpg?
>
> a

Comparison data for anal retentive individuals.

a wrote:
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <70Xii.21781$tB5.18283@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> Sure it does. If an 01 V6 automatic trans car gets 30, it's well
>>>> within his realm of believability that a 4 cylinder manual trans
>>>> car gets 35 in the same circumstances.
>>>>
>>> "realm of believability" ?? You serious? Either it *does* or it
>>> *doesn't*.
>>
>> He doesn't know, but he can surmise from his experience that I'm not
>> lying.
>>
>> You, on the other hand, seem to insist that I'm lying. So either you
>> have your own experiences that so indicate, or else you're just an
>> asshole in general.
>>
>> Which would it be?
>>
>
> Until you prove it - I don't believe you - and since you can't prove
> it here...

Yet you have not proven your own claim. So why should we believe you?

>
> "I'm the King of Siam!" I can say anything I want in a newsgroup
> without having to prove anything. Are you saying it just has to be
> in the "realm of believability" for us to take it as fact? I don't buy
> it. Deal
> with it. It's not in *my* realm of believability.
>
> - Here's how it is - you state what you say is fact.
>
> - I say you're full of shit.
>
> End of story - You may, or may not, be full of shit, but what does
> that matter?
> a

jim beam wrote:
> a wrote:
>> L Alpert wrote:
>>> a wrote:
>>>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog
>>>>>> in terms of power...
>>>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with
>>>>> PLENTY of power.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>>
>>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>
>>> Why is that? My '04 V6 gets a tad over 30MPG on the highway, and I'm
>>> usually around 75MPH.......
>>>
>>
>> Again - "If my Auntie had bullocks, she'd be my Uncle!"
>>
>> WTF does your experience in a different car, different engine,
>> different city different state, different country(?), different
>> driving style, different fuel... have to do with his mpg?
>>
>> a
>
> stop being a prick. your "experience" is different because you're
> either being a hotrod or there's something wrong with your car. don't
> call people liars when they're not.

Uh, how do you *know* that they are not liars?

a

In article <S85ji.21851$tB5.7576@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> > stop being a prick. your "experience" is different because you're
> > either being a hotrod or there's something wrong with your car. don't
> > call people liars when they're not.
>
> Uh, how do you *know* that they are not liars?

The same way you *know* that everyone is lying.

I noticed that you never bothered to respond to my well-reasoned
treatise on this particular subject. So tell us, "a" (which no doubt
stands for something appropriate), why should the world take your datum
point and extrapolate it to the entire world, all the while ignoring
other data points that are statistically (and radically) different from
yours?

Are YOU the only one who knows "the truth"?

I imagine you have a fine collection of foil hats, and that the CIA has
your number. They know when it's you calling. Are they still polite
and tolerant when you call about the black helicopters?

What is the frequency, Kenneth?

High Tech Misfit <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:137dberrigbkw.dlg@hightech.misfit:

> a wrote:
>
>> Until you prove it - I don't believe you - and since you can't prove
>> it here...
>>
>> "I'm the King of Siam!" I can say anything I want in a newsgroup
>> without having to prove anything. Are you saying it just has to be
>> in the "realm of believability" for us to take it as fact? I don't
>> buy it. Deal with it.
>> It's not in *my* realm of believability.
>>
>> - Here's how it is - you state what you say is fact.
>>
>> - I say you're full of shit.
>>
>> End of story - You may, or may not, be full of shit, but what does
>> that matter?
>
> Since you're the fool who is disputing our claims, the onus is on you
> to prove us wrong.
>

Sorry,it doesn't work that way;the one who made the claim of 35 MPG is the
one who needs to show proof.
"a" is merely calling him on it.
You're asking "a" to prove a negative,that something DIDNT happen.

Now,that 35mpg may be all highway driving.(at 55mph?)
Heck,I got 30 mpg with my 94 Integra GSR driving at 80-85 mph from Jax to
Orlando,and I'm a leadfoot. But all-city was 24-25mpg.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

In article <Xns99646434D8735jyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> > Since you're the fool who is disputing our claims, the onus is on you
> > to prove us wrong.
> >
>
> Sorry,it doesn't work that way;the one who made the claim of 35 MPG is the
> one who needs to show proof.

No, I simply need to offer it as a datum point.

Evaluate the other data points, and see what you get.

Let's see....you're the only one who's disputing it, so...