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#11 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 05:57 pm

a wrote:

> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog in terms
>>> of power...
>>
>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with PLENTY of
>> power.
>>
>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>
>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road trip,
>> AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>
>
> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>
> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>
> a

I believe him. I routinely got 33mpg with a '93 Accord automatic.

#12 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 05:59 pm

Seth wrote:
> "a" <a@a.ca> wrote in message news:iYUii.21769$tB5.3923@edtnps90...
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog
>>>> in terms of power...
>>>
>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with PLENTY
>>> of power.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>
>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>
>>
>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>
>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>
>
> How so? I get almost 30mpg out of an '01 V6 with automatic.
>

How so? Because I don't believe his story, that's how so. Just because
you *almost* get 30 mpg (what's *almost* 30mpg? 25? 29? 22? What?) doesn't
mean jack in relation to someone else getting X+ mpg with their car.

a

#13 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:00 pm

High Tech Misfit wrote:
> a wrote:
>
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog in terms
>>>> of power...
>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with PLENTY of
>>> power.
>>>
>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>
>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road trip,
>>> AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>
>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>
>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>
>> a
>
> I believe him. I routinely got 33mpg with a '93 Accord automatic.

Good for you - on road trips through the Swiss f-ing alps with the AC on? No?

a

#14 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:18 pm

"a" <a@a.ca> wrote in message news:yDVii.28160$xk5.26728@edtnps82...
> Seth wrote:
>> "a" <a@a.ca> wrote in message news:iYUii.21769$tB5.3923@edtnps90...
>>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>> In article <_FRii.14820$Io4.11389@edtnps89>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have an '02 4cyl and, while a great trouble free car, it's a dog in
>>>>> terms of power...
>>>>
>>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with PLENTY
>>>> of power.
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road trip,
>>>> AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>
>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>
>>
>> How so? I get almost 30mpg out of an '01 V6 with automatic.
>>
>
> How so? Because I don't believe his story, that's how so. Just because
> you *almost* get 30 mpg (what's *almost* 30mpg? 25? 29? 22? What?)
> doesn't mean jack in relation to someone else getting X+ mpg with their
> car.

Consistently in the mid 29's is almost 30. Sometimes 29.2, sometimes 29.8.
That's with a V6 with an auto. It's entirely believable to get 35 with an
i4 manual.

Yes, it does mean jack when comparing the 2 cause almost 30 on the car that
is known to consistently get worse mileage means better mileage is to be
expected form the other one.

#15 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:21 pm

"a" <a@a.ca> wrote in message news:8BVii.28159$xk5.21109@edtnps82...
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article <iYUii.21769$tB5.3923@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with PLENTY
>>>> of power.
>>>>
>>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road trip,
>>>> AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>
>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>
>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>
>> Nope. It happened on the way out, so I made sure to measure on the way
>> back.
>>
>> Damn. What a car.
>>
>
> Well, until Ernst & Young can audit your mileage, I'm still calling horse
> shit. A road trip - through the mountains - AC on full... up hill BOTH
> ...
>
> "It happened on the way out" - so you knew it happened on the way "out".
> How? If you only measured it on the way *back* ...?
>
> Get real. I like my Accord, but I'm not delusional.

Well, I happen to work for EY. Maybe someone can lend me theirs and I'll
test the i4/manual for a month on my 75 mile each way commute.

#16 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:26 pm

Seth wrote:
> "a" <a@a.ca> wrote in message news:8BVii.28159$xk5.21109@edtnps82...
>> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article <iYUii.21769$tB5.3923@edtnps90>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I had an 00 Accord 4 cylinder, and it was a fantastic car with
>>>>> PLENTY of power.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Course, I outfitted mine properly: with a manual transmission.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>>
>>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>>
>>> Nope. It happened on the way out, so I made sure to measure on the
>>> way back.
>>>
>>> Damn. What a car.
>>>
>>
>> Well, until Ernst & Young can audit your mileage, I'm still calling
>> horse shit. A road trip - through the mountains - AC on full... up
>> hill BOTH ...
>>
>> "It happened on the way out" - so you knew it happened on the way
>> "out". How? If you only measured it on the way *back* ...?
>>
>> Get real. I like my Accord, but I'm not delusional.
>
>
> Well, I happen to work for EY. Maybe someone can lend me theirs and
> I'll test the i4/manual for a month on my 75 mile each way commute.
>

I'll let you drive you mine - I've got an 02 with the F23A1 engine. I've
got just under 50,000km on it (30,860mi).

Next time you're near Halifax, NS, Canada (eh!) I'll gladly lend you my car.

a

#17 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:53 pm

In article <yDVii.28160$xk5.26728@edtnps82>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> >>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
> >>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
> >>
> >> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
> >
> >
> > How so? I get almost 30mpg out of an '01 V6 with automatic.
> >
>
> How so? Because I don't believe his story, that's how so. Just because
> you *almost* get 30 mpg (what's *almost* 30mpg? 25? 29? 22? What?) doesn't
> mean jack in relation to someone else getting X+ mpg with their car.

Sure it does. If an 01 V6 automatic trans car gets 30, it's well within
his realm of believability that a 4 cylinder manual trans car gets 35 in
the same circumstances.

#18 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:54 pm

In article <rEVii.28162$xk5.15548@edtnps82>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> >>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road trip,
> >>> AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
> >>>
> >> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
> >>
> >> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
> >>
> >> a
> >
> > I believe him. I routinely got 33mpg with a '93 Accord automatic.
>
> Good for you - on road trips through the Swiss f-ing alps with the AC on?
> No?

It happened. Get over it.

Why does it bother you that this happened?

#19 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 06:55 pm

In article <8BVii.28159$xk5.21109@edtnps82>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:

> >> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
> >
> > Nope. It happened on the way out, so I made sure to measure on the way
> > back.
> >
> > Damn. What a car.
> >
>
> Well, until Ernst & Young can audit your mileage, I'm still calling horse
> shit. A road trip - through the mountains - AC on full... up hill BOTH ...
>
> "It happened on the way out" - so you knew it happened on the way "out".
> How? If you only measured it on the way *back* ...?

No, I stopped after the mountains to get gas. I routinely check my
mileage every time. I saw 35...and decided that I really should make
double sure to check on the way back, to see if that was a fluke or not.

And it happened on the way back, too.

Your mother didn't breast feed you or something.

#20 (**permalink**) 04 Jul 2007, 07:34 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <yDVii.28160$xk5.26728@edtnps82>, a <a@a.ca> wrote:
>
>>>>> In addition, that baby got 35mpg in the dead of summer on a road
>>>>> trip, AC on full blast, going through the mountains.
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing wrong - mine is a 5 speed.
>>>>
>>>> You're 35mpg is horse shit, though.
>>>
>>> How so? I get almost 30mpg out of an '01 V6 with automatic.
>>>
>> How so? Because I don't believe his story, that's how so. Just because
>> you *almost* get 30 mpg (what's *almost* 30mpg? 25? 29? 22? What?) doesn't
>> mean jack in relation to someone else getting X+ mpg with their car.
>
> Sure it does. If an 01 V6 automatic trans car gets 30, it's well within
> his realm of believability that a 4 cylinder manual trans car gets 35 in
> the same circumstances.
>

"realm of believability" ?? You serious? Either it *does* or it *doesn't*.
Believability has nothing to do with it. But FWIW, I don't believe it.

a

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